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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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Does anybody have a list of the parts it takes to swap a j30a into my accord ex? The F22b1 just doesn't cut it. Not legal to turbo it, and I would like to pass bar.
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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I really doubt a V6 will fit into the 5th gen Accord 4cyl. It's pretty darn tight already with the 4cyl in there. You might have a better chance of swapping it into a 5th gen V6 Accord.

Just my opinion. You can swap H22 if you think the F22B1 is not cutting it.
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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not stepping on any toes but the 5th gen has a 6 cyl in them already 97 v6, besides as long as your mounts are working your can damn near swap anything
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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gotta luv the j30a1, those engines can take a beating. too bad the tranny can't hold up all that well
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 07:39 PM
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Thank you for all the support from those who do their research. Does anybody know all thats needed? Wiring etc.?
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 08:16 PM
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not stepping on any toes but the 5th gen has a 6 cyl in them already 97 v6, besides as long as your mounts are working your can damn near swap anything
I knew I forgot to say something...

the V6 version has a longer hood or front end. He said F22B1 so I assume he has a 4cyl.

In the 5th gen year, there's a difference in length of hood/front end between the 4cyl and 6 cylinder. To accomidate the large C-Series engine (V6) 2.7L, Honda had to lengthen the hood line. And you're swapping a 3.0L into it? Well, it might be tight, but thanks to the longer hood and bigger engine bay, it just might fit! But trying to fit that 3.0L into a space that was meant for a 2.2L? Only if you're lucky! With that said, Good luck with your project. Hey if you did fit it, GOOD JOB! You just proved Honda engineers wrong.

Starting with the 6th gen, there's only 1 body for 4cyl and 6 cyl. I have both generation, both 4 cyl and if you compare the size of the space left from the 4cyl engine in the 01 Accord, let's just say, you could technically fit a luggage in there. or bunch of turbos.

If you still don't believe me research it yourself.

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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 09:44 AM
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Just remember before you rebuttle, that hasport has stuffed j-series in civics. Anything can be done. Tight fit yes of course. But well worth it.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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With a nice big hole in the hood.....

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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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Getting it to "fit", thats easy. Making it work "properly" is the hard part.
Im sure you guys have seen the April 09 issue of "HONDA TUNING".

P. 72 "wrenchin" - V-6 ENGINE SWAPPING
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 11:02 AM
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ok so back to the original topic. What do I need to swap a j-series engine into my 96 accord?
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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Custom motor mounts
Custom wiring harness
Custom hood
Custom axles
Custom shift cables/shifter - may be able to reuse J series and reroute however it looks like those guys are replacing the whole shifting assembly inside
Chipped ECU
Custom bay (move battery/air box/ac lines/etc)


No one has done it in a 5th gen. So if you're asking for a DIY list it doesn't exist. You're going to have to look at what those Civic guys are using and compare to what the Accord already has.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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Holy crap that sucks. Actually I should be able to get the accord wiring harness, and motor mounts correct? 96 is the year the accord started housing the j30a.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 11:13 AM
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Well are you doing the swap they're using - the J32? Or the crappy Accord one? The Accord one you're referring to does not have near the same power that those guys are swapping in. So with that being said I doubt the wiring harnesses are even remotely similar. You're better using the newer J32 and trying to adapt it's plugs to work with the stock cluster - or do something like and S2K cluster swap.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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what does the s2k cluster swap entail? I'm new to the honda side of things.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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You just match up the wires, there's a diagram of it I believe on Honda Society. But my point of saying that is it *may* be easier if you're going through all that trouble to just match it up to the newer S2000 cluster. I'm sure it will work with the stock Accord one too though.

What it boils down to is you'll have to match the wires going from the ecu/motor to the cluster and match everything accordingly.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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well I would rather have the S2k cluster anyways as the stock one has taken a dump on me, and works only when it wants to. Thanks for the info.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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Dude unless you have AT LEAST 10 G`s and have the fabrication skills I would consider just turn your back and walk away.
If you really want to be "different" it cost money.
Why not H22? Yeah its been done before, yeah more people have it than not. So what. It puts down some reasonable #s if thats what your looking for. Just a bit more power.

Im thinking that if im going to great lenghs to make a V6 swap work, im going to grab a monster. J35A8- Tl-S FTW!!
And It would be difficult to get the speedo to work anyway. Just use an aftermarket tach.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 01:20 PM
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looking at the money involved, just way too much for me. I looked at the parts, and weighed the options. F22B1 vtec with some toys is just fine. Take some weight out, and it'll all be good. Still wanna pass CA smog.
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by doc500
looking at the money involved, just way too much for me. I looked at the parts, and weighed the options. F22B1 vtec with some toys is just fine. Take some weight out, and it'll all be good. Still wanna pass CA smog.
why not go for the "H"2.2A or K24 or B20 swap i sa lot more info on these swaps as well as ready made parts for it.........?
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Old Aug 9, 2011 | 06:13 PM
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also the late 90s accord with V6s in them are garbage somewhat. by garbage i mean for this particular swap.the engine sits in the bay like its RWD. the jmotors sit sideways like most honda engines. there are 2 things this swap is gonna be,challenging,and expesive. however,its a honda so anythings possible! gooluck man. keep us posted!

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Old Aug 9, 2011 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by novakane2778
also the late 90s accord with V6s in them are garbage somewhat. by garbage i mean for this particular swap.the engine sits in the bay like its RWD. the jmotors sit sideways like most honda engines. there are 2 things this swap is gonna be,challenging,and expesive. however,its a honda so anythings possible! gooluck man. keep us posted!
Uh what?

The motor sites just like all the other Hondas with a J series V6. Unnecessary and incorrect information and a 2 year bump?
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Old Aug 10, 2011 | 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by novakane2778
also the late 90s accord with V6s in them are garbage somewhat. by garbage i mean for this particular swap.the engine sits in the bay like its RWD. the jmotors sit sideways like most honda engines. there are 2 things this swap is gonna be,challenging,and expesive. however,its a honda so anythings possible! gooluck man. keep us posted!
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Uh what?

The motor sites just like all the other Hondas with a J series V6. Unnecessary and incorrect information and a 2 year bump?
it sounds like he's confusing the C27 in the Accord (96-97) with the C32 in the Acura Legend (91-95).

i have no explaination for the 2 year bump.. haha.
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Old Aug 10, 2011 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by hondamark35
it sounds like he's confusing the C27 in the Accord (96-97) with the C32 in the Acura Legend (91-95).

i have no explaination for the 2 year bump.. haha.
Ah yes, the Acura Legend - that one is definitely an odd ball. Also Acura had that I-5 motor that was funky too.
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Old Aug 10, 2011 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by TheMuffinMan
Ah yes, the Acura Legend - that one is definitely an odd ball. Also Acura had that I-5 motor that was funky too.
i remember reading something about that I-5 being joint developed with Rover/Brittish Leyland. that may be why it's such an odd ball.
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