I'm very new to Honda, I'm a Muscle Car guy through and through, but my roommate has a '00 Civic Si (B16A2 if I remember correctly), and I want to help her beef it up a bit. Her birthday is on the 20th of next month and I want to surprise her with either a cold air intake or a short ram intake. I know these things can be rather pricey, but if it'll actually make a difference then I'm down. She thought her car was quick till I took her for a ride in my Camaro, now she's got the speed bug big time!!!

Okay, so who makes the best cold air intake? What about a short ram? What kind of real world performance gains can be had with these?

Thanks guys!

Joel

 

... well there kinda isnt a best its more about wats best for the set up .. but on a stock car i would just go with a aem sri or somthing dont go over bored with it because she will probly honestly buy just intake and exhaughst for it

 

ive heard good things about the aem v2 intake making numbers, but idk. Im running a whale ***** intake so i really cant complain. Aem sri and cai are crap.

 

The car is stock, so I guess a short ram would be a good idea, and they're cheap. I just ran across a few clips on youtube of the Greddy EVO2 cat back exhaust and she REALLY likes the sound of it. I told her it'd almost be pointless without a header, so now I've gotta find out who makes a really good header for her car.

I saw the K&N Typhoon, and they claim 10 HP, any opinions on that setup?

Who knows, with gas prices the way they are I might just get me a little Si too LOL MAYBE! No promises LOL

Thanks again guys.

Joel

 

How is aem intake crap opposed to you running a replica intake? Please explain about aem.

 

get any 3" sri ( ebay, autozone,w/e), throw a v-stack w/ filter on it and your set.

 

Get her a V2 cause it looks fancy to noobs

 

The whale ***** is a serious underachiever in the HP department. It looks good though.

 

Please tell me this is an inside joke and that there's no such thing as a "whale *****" intake LMAO Ofcourse, if some of these guys are gonna have a whale tail out back then I guess a whale ***** under the hood kinda makes sense LMAO

I was actually looking at getting her the Injen Short Ram, but I'm still curious as to which intake will actually produce the greatest results. Like I said, she wants this thing to be faster, i.e. greater acceleration.

LMAO Yeah, I know, she's gonna need more than an intake and exhaust to see great results, but I want to make sure that she gets a good intake so that when she gets the header, high flow cat, and cat-back exhaust, it'll all be well matched. Eventually she'll get her ECU done, but that's a ways off.

Oh, and we're in California, so CARB legal parts are a must.

Thanks guys!

Joel

 

for CARB legal parts, aem & injen are your best choices for an intake. As for a header, DC sports because they are CARB legal. DC sports just makes an off the shelf everyday header, it'll flow better than stock but won't really make any difference. Its a stock motor and only a 1.6 liter, so there's not much that can be done bolt on wise to make a big difference.

 

That's why I told her to go FI LOL Her exact quote, "I WISH!!!" LMAO

Okay, so Injen Short Ram or CAI, Edelbrock Performer X intake manifold, DC Sports header, high flow cat, and Greddy EVO2 cat-back exhaust... What kind of results could be seen with this combo, before and after having her computer gets tweaked?

 

Wait, damnit! LOL Okay, Injen CAI or AEM V2?

 

You list your location as California, don't you want to stay smog legal on the modifications? (I thought only the V1 had a CARB approval number.)

 

carb legal shmarb legal, who gives a flyin you know what. Buy an intake thats "carb legal" and have an extra one that is better performing and have it on full time, swap for the CL one when you gotta go smog. 3" pipe with a velocity stack and a blox style filter. nuff said

 

Can someone show me what you're referring to when you say "velocity stack"? I know what these are when referring to Chevy's and such but I don't have a clue when it comes to imports. Someone mind enlightening me?

I could have swore I saw a CARB EO # on the V2... I'll look again.

 

http://jhpusa.com/store/pc/viewPrd.a...idproduct=4111

usually you can buy the vstack and filter as a combo off ebay or some other type of retailer.

 

Ahhhhh, okay, so very similar to what I'm used to but attaches to the end of the intake pipe instead... Makes sense. Thanks for the input!

 

I just talked my friend into taking her for a ride in his Acura RSX Type S later on tonight. His car produced nearly 300 WHP (N/A) on the dyno... She's gonna be pissed! LMAO She's got the slowest car of the bunch and it's drive'n her crazy! LMAO

 

get any 3" sri ( ebay, autozone,w/e), throw a v-stack w/ filter on it and your set.

This sounds closest to what is right.

The longer the intake runner the slower the response, the shorter the runner "i.e" ITB's the quicker the perceived throttle response.

A longer intake runner will give the air velocity; attributing to noticeable power in certain areas on the power-band. "certain" >>most likely 4000-9000RPM

A shorter runner will help the engine breath and will restrict the power band to peak RPMs
perceived power gains under 4000RPM, really just gaining back throttle response.

Best choice for a close to stock b16a... "the largest diameter short-ram with a velocity stack and filter. "

HP is just an another arbitrary number used for tuning. TQ will be what you feel through the seat of your pants, and this is what you are looking to achieve not HP as HP is felt when running towards the top of the power-band at the track and illegally on the streets.

Whale *****, don't waste the money, first spend time reading about fluid dynamics. Knowledge is the best tool for making power, and knowledge will end up saving you $$$$$$$ to put parts where they can benefit you best.

remember increasing displacement is the key for making power and that costs $$$$$$

 

You have this completely backwards.....


OP- you can take this advice from someone who's owned, a similar car, used many different parts and tested them to see what's better. Buy an AEM or Injen CAI intake for THAT specific car (not the AEM V2) and you will be happy with the results.

 

A few comments...

I don't know about intake pipes but I do know that when it comes to intake runner length, longer = better low end, shorter = more top end. Don't exactly understand how the length of the pipe before the throttle body would really make that big of a difference though, aside from getting farther away from the source of the heat, thus getting a cooler intake charge. Aside from the cooler charger, as long as the pipe flows the same or more cfm as the throttle body at any given RPM then there should be no difference between the short ram and the longer CAI.

HP vs TQ... Having PLENTY of experience with V8's, both gasoline and diesel powered, I know a thing or two about HP and Torque LOL I'm a noob to imports, not cars in general

As far as the comment about displacement... You're preach'n to the choir Bro LOL Just read my signature!

Okay, so the Injen CAI is a good call then, sweet! Thanks Bro!

So the whale ***** really exhists?!?! SERIOUSLY!?!? LMAO That's hilarious!

 

Okay, I just looked up the whale ***** intake... ROFLMAO That thing's ridiculous looking, and not in a god way! LMAO That's awesome!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs1KA...eature=related

BTW, this is not my car

 

^silly.

 

ROFLMAO AWESOME!!! Sounds like a POS, looks like POS... You know what they say, if it walk like a duck, and talks like a duck... LMAO