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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 08:49 PM
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im am absolutely dumbfounded to what happened to my car today while driving to work. i have a 91 ls turbo. i was going down the last road before i went into work for ten hours so i decided to do a nice second gear pull. right about 6k rpms i lose all power and i shift to fourth and my car is running really rough and is losing power. it just dies and i coast into a parking lot. i try to start it and nothing. then i get it to turn over and it runs really rough and white smoke comes from under the hood and it smells like gas real bad. i let it sit for 5 minutes and it starts up and idles very rough and i shut it down cause i was late for work. what could it be??????
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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i dont know much about turbo cars but my first guess would be to check all the vacum lines and fuel lines. do you have a check engine light?
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 11:26 PM
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Is the car tuned? Do you have a wideband? How many lbs of boost are you running? You could of blown the headgasket or worse cracked a sleeve, messed up ringlands, etc

Have you checked the oil? is it milky? have you checked the coolant?

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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 11:51 PM
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Yup, as above, check the oil and see if it's milky. You may have just blown your head gasket. Blown turbo seals will also cause white smoke as well but I'm not sure about causing your to die. Sounds more like a blown head gasket. =[
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 08:07 AM
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its not tuned, no wideband, 6psi, no i havnt checked anything because i was late to work lol. well my brother went to see what was wrong with it while i was at work and he said that it had no power and died right when the CEL light come on. when he was pushing it he said it was leaking gas and my strarter came off. this is he second timke that has happened. im going today to check all the fluids and lines.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 08:19 AM
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its not tuned, no wideband, 6psi, no i havnt checked anything because i was late to work lol. well my brother went to see what was wrong with it while i was at work and he said that it had no power and died right when the CEL light come on. when he was pushing it he said it was leaking gas and my strarter came off. this is he second timke that has happened. im going today to check all the fluids and lines.
The starter vibrated loose?
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 08:25 AM
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he said it cracked then fel off. before it snapped off where the blots hold it.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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I guess this is what happens when you dont get a tune!!! Thumbs down for turbos
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 10:45 AM
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I guess this is what happens when you dont get a tune!!! Thumbs down for turbos
Not a thumbs down for the turbo. If it was tuned properly it would've ran fine. No offense OP.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 91integra_rubio
its not tuned, no wideband, 6psi, no i havnt checked anything because i was late to work lol. well my brother went to see what was wrong with it while i was at work and he said that it had no power and died right when the CEL light come on. when he was pushing it he said it was leaking gas and my strarter came off. this is he second timke that has happened. im going today to check all the fluids and lines.

This would explain everything.. Why are you driving a turbo car that's untuned and to top it off.. beating on it? Hope that 2nd gear pull was worth it.. I'll be willing to bet you screwed your motor..

After you check everything i would start with pulling the head off and go from there

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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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because its my daily driven car and i hit boost once every three days. i drive to work and back thats it til i can afford to tune it. its not cheap to do that **** and ive had the car for three weeks im saving up to get it all at one time. thanks though, since your my dad and all thanks for that "was it worth it". im just looking for some help if it was something else other than tearing my motor apart that would be great.


i checked my flluid and i have full coolant, green as green. oil good color but it smells like gas not oil. its at a good level though. starter snapped again right where the short starter bolt holds it. i have some picures i will upload.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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since your my dad and all thanks for that "was it worth it". im just looking for some help if it was something else other than tearing my motor apart that would be great.
pretty sure he did offer advise. And if you frequent the site you would see that mods to your motor require a tune and you are not the first person to blow a motor by moding it and not tuning it. I know it's expensive, but it's part of building a car that will last. I hope your motor isn't too broken, but it sounds like you may be starting from scratch, i hope you remember to tune next time.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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ok i understand everyone one is here to help but i knoow im not the first one to blow my motor and defff not the last theres no need for that "hope it was worth it". i asked for help and advice whch he gave me but not the smart comment. i am greatful everyone helping me but i am in no way an expert and to say i im willing to bet you screwed your motor really isnt helping that much. its such a generic statement. i asked for professional help to diagnose my problem as much as possible over the internet like specific problems. i was planning to rebuild the motor so this is a chance lol. but if its something less than that i would love to have a car to drive back and forth to work. thank you guys for alll the help and keep the suggestions comong!
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because its my daily driven car and i hit boost once every three days. i drive to work and back thats it til i can afford to tune it. its not cheap to do that **** and ive had the car for three weeks im saving up to get it all at one time. thanks though, since your my dad and all thanks for that "was it worth it". im just looking for some help if it was something else other than tearing my motor apart that would be great.


i checked my flluid and i have full coolant, green as green. oil good color but it smells like gas not oil. its at a good level though. starter snapped again right where the short starter bolt holds it. i have some picures i will upload.



No need for a smart *** reply. That will get you NO where. Your evidently not mechanically inclined enough to know what's going on. If you were you would of known better than to be beating on a boosted car that's not tuned. That's the bottom line

You come here to ask a technical question. I gave you a technical answer that you might not be willing to accept. Your motor could be ruined. I hope not, but it's most likely.

The rough idle.. and loss of power your complaining about seems to share symptoms of a blown headgasket, but like i was saying.. It could be worse.. cracked sleeve, messed up ringland.. even if it is the headgasket.. the motor has to come apart. I'm not there looking at the car so i don't know what's going on.

Do you have any fuel management?
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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i am a noob and im not trying to be a smart *** it just sounds like something my dad would say lol. i am willing to accept it and am willing to fix it im just trying to b e optimistic im 18 and rebuilding a motor is a lot of money for me so i want to be sure i have to tear it apart before i start to do it. besides the fmu, no. please dont bash on me for that ive been posting on here getting information to safely boost and tune properly. i wasnt beating it was a pull and i wasnt even hitting full boost, first time since friday ive even hit boost but i know i shouldnt have even done that.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 91integra_rubio
i am a noob and im not trying to be a smart *** it just sounds like something my dad would say lol. i am willing to accept it and am willing to fix it im just trying to b e optimistic im 18 and rebuilding a motor is a lot of money for me so i want to be sure i have to tear it apart before i start to do it. besides the fmu, no. please dont bash on me for that ive been posting on here getting information to safely boost and tune properly. i wasnt beating it was a pull and i wasnt even hitting full boost, first time since friday ive even hit boost but i know i shouldnt have even done that.

Alright, well that's good to hear.. I understand your age.. and the money situation.. I'm only a couple years older than you

For starters.. get the starter situation fixed..so you can attempt to start/crank the car.

If you can get your hands on a compression tester.. or borrow one from a friend.. Run a compression test on the engine and go from there. You will need to unplug the distributor or pull the ecu fuse and screw the compression tester into each cylinder and crank the car over.. And read the numbers in each cylinder. If you need more help or details.. try searching.. you might find a write-up or how to on here as well.

If the oil smells like gas.. most likely it's thinned out and has gas in it.. So i would also recommend going ahead and changing the oil and filter.. thinned out oil = not good on engine.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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yeah i mean my money isnt too bad i have about 1k a month to spend on it. what could cause the oil to have gas in it? do you have to take the head off to run a compression test?
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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some oil in the spark plug hole from when the valve cover was off and my brother poured oil in it.

dont know what this is on the fuel rail it wasnt before i dont think


homeade turbo filter cant find any that fit in my bay its temporary but i dont know if this would affectanything
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 08:28 PM
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Huh. For the record I'm laughing hysterically, but I'll still try to help...
It could be your intake manifold gasket, or any number of vacuum leaks; start there. Also pull off your fuel rail & check the injectors and seals, since you're leaking fuel there's a good chance something broke, which could also explain why you broke down.
However, the detonation from running that lean sounds like it annihilated your internals, so at least check your spark plugs, make sure they're not completely white. Actually just make sure they're still there. And make sure they still spark.
Please remove the turbo. That compressor is scared for its life right now.
You need a pipe extension so you can run a filter from somewhere else more suitable rather than from behind your radiator. Any local shop can hook you up with some cheap aluminum bends & brackets.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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why do i need to remove the turbo to get a pipe extension for a filter?
i have a hondata itake manifold gasket so that should be a stronger component and something less likely to go wrong.
i need to get it towed home so i can start doing all this stuff. thank you for your input its greatly appreciated. ill keep posted on here for further help.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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Alright, well that's good to hear.. I understand your age.. and the money situation.. I'm only a couple years older than you

For starters.. get the starter situation fixed..so you can attempt to start/crank the car.

If you can get your hands on a compression tester.. or borrow one from a friend.. Run a compression test on the engine and go from there. You will need to unplug the distributor or pull the ecu fuse and screw the compression tester into each cylinder and crank the car over.. And read the numbers in each cylinder. If you need more help or details.. try searching.. you might find a write-up or how to on here as well.

If the oil smells like gas.. most likely it's thinned out and has gas in it.. So i would also recommend going ahead and changing the oil and filter.. thinned out oil = not good on engine.
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yea um that make-shift, cloth filter, could get sucked into the turbo, he wants you to get a pipe because basically your sucking air in a pretty hot environment right now, air coming right off the radiator. You really need to locate someone near you who knows what they are looking at and get some help, your car need therapy as well, i think it has been scarred now.. oh ps, those hondata gaskets aren't made of gold, i had one about 2-3 years ago and it lasted about 10 months before hot coolant cracked it and started dumping fluid everywhere.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 09:38 AM
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why again did your brother pour oil into a spark plug hole?
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 10:18 AM
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well he said the valve cover was off, i think maybe he was pouring and accidently poured into the spark plug hole? who knows..
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hmmm.... anyone who pours oil in the spark plug hole, would never work on my car. thats stupid, sorry, but it is. there is a cap on the valve cover, usually they say OIL on them. lol
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