ok im trying to pick up a new set of high performance all season tires.. i plan on putting them on my facotory web wheels that came on my 97 gsr from the factory.

currently the previous owner put some no name 40 dollar tires that are god awful and are the original 195/55/15 sizing..

what is the best performance tire to put on it and what size for 85 or less per tire. car will be lowered a good amount on coilovers if that matters.

 

I personally love my Falken 912's. Only gripe I have is they are asymmetrical, so I can't flip them over in a couple years, but they have an awesome treadwear rating (360), and do awesome in the snow.

Another comparable tire that my buddy had satisfaction with was the GoodYear Eagle GT. Tread pattern is comparable (assym with a 400 treadwear), but he was totally happy with them.

Discount Tire direct has them for 77 and 83 dollars apiece, respectively. Not a bad price for good quality tires.

 

nitto neo gen is my 1st choice in all season, falken 912 would be second. you would probably enjoy either.

 

should is stick with the 195/55/15?

 

either that or 195 / 50 / 15. they're both good sizes
also, on your door panel it'll tell you the oem specs for tire size which is
195 / 55 /15.

 

whats the difference between the 55 and 50

 

i would just go with the stock tire size or 205/50/15. the 195/50 is going to be a smaller diameter. just go to tirerack.com and read the reviews.

 

so from this group then what would you pick

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compar...=HPAS&x=12&y=4

also what about toyo proxes 4 or flakens

 

You can use either 195/55-15 or 205/50-15. Differences between those two sizes are insignificant, unless the tire you happen to want is only available in one size or has a big price difference between the two sizes.

I assume you want all-season tires because you intend to use them in snow and winter cold, as well as in moderate to warm temperatures the rest of the year. If that's the case, get the Kumho ASX. It's one of the best all-season tires you can buy, and it's very affordable. 195/55 and 205/50 are both $66 plus shipping at Tire Rack. 205/50 is $78 with free shipping from Discount Tire Direct.

For anyone who won't use tires in snow - either they live in a warmer climate or they have winter tires or another vehicle for snow - you can get summer tires and take advantage of their better performance than all-seasons in moderate to warm temperatures (including rain as well as dry roads). If you want the absolute stickiest summer street tire you can get on dry pavement, such as if you occasionally track or autocross your car, get the Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec in 195/55-15. If you want a summer street tire that lasts a bit longer and does well in rain, get the Yokohama S.drive in 195/55-15.

Well, I wouldn't call the Falken Ziex ZE-912 a "good quality tire". I would call it a "crappy quality tire". It's only virtue is that it's cheap.

The Eagle GT (available in 195/55) is a good choice, though; it's a decent all-season tire, as good as the ASX or maybe even slightly better. It's normally slightly more expensive than the Kumho ASX (by $5-8 per tire), but there's a $5/tire rebate right now.

No, they aren't. 195/50-15 is too small for an Integra; that's the size for older (pre-'96) Civics. Stick with 195/55-15 or 205/50-15.

The difference is that the sidewall height, and thus the outer diameter, is smaller with the 50. 195/50-15 means that the sidewall height is .50*195 mm instead of the stock .55*195 mm.

195/55-15 is the stock tire size for the Integra GS-R and Special Edition, and works fine on other Integras. 195/50-15 is too small.



The Kumho ASX. But you can save a few bucks getting it at Discount Tire Direct, where they sell it for $78 with free shipping.

Note that the Goodyear Eagle GT isn't showing there because you're looking at 205/50-15. It will show up if you look at 195/55-15.

 

i had the asx's on a set of my 17's for my rsx and i thought they were ok i didnt think i had the best all season tires

 

also tried the asx, not bad but for all season the neo gens seemed grippier in dry weather and similar in the wet. then again, it's just by feel as i didn't back to back them on the same car on the clock. it could just be the 280 treadwear of the neo gen versus the harder kumho

 

im running 205/50's yokohoma parada spec 2's. THESE ARE NOT ALL SEASONS, Lol. u will die. awesome tire

they were about 325$ shipped from discounttiredirect

 

ok well maybe my needs arent well understood.. i want a tire that grips well in the summer but can survive the winter... i had a set of tires that were summer only and the burned away instantly when i drove them in the cold and were death in the snow... i want the best summer traction and a tire i can use in freezing temps with lite snow, i dont really drive in the snow.

 

Ken, I know you're one of the most knowledgeable folks around here when it comes to tires, but shouldn't you at least explain to people who don't know about tires WHY you don't think 195/50-15 is a good choice? There are the drawbacks like increased speedometer error (speedo will read 5-7 mph fast at highway speeds) and miles racking up on the odometer slightly faster than actual miles traveled.

I personally liked my 195/50-15 tires I used to have on my stock wheels. One of the positives is that the car feels a bit quicker, due to effectively raising the final drive ratio with the smaller tires. Also I was able to get 195/50-15 Yokohama ES100's for a SIGNIFICANT savings over the stock 195/55-15 or 205/50-15 size.

Another difference is that the smaller overall diameter will make the car's body sit a touch lower to the ground, but it will also slightly increase the amount of tire-to-fender gap. That may be a good idea for some, or not a good idea for others. I know those who ride "slizzamed y0" like the size as it's less likely to present rubbing problems.

Yes, a 195/50-15 tire has a lower load rating than stock 195/55-15's, but honestly, unless you regularly haul several hundred pounds of cargo in the back of your Integra, you'll be in no danger of getting anywhere near the load rating of a 195/50-15 tire.

OP: don't worry, it's not a safety or danger issue to go with 195/50-15. It's really just a personal preference of whether you want to deal with the increased speedometer error or not. I know one thing, my current Kumho SPT 195/55-15 tires look like balloon tires on my stock wheels. I will be going back to 195/50-15 for the next set, if I have the car that long. These tires are practically new and I hardly ever roll on them since they're just my backup wheels. The speedo error helps keep me out of trouble, also, since I can set my cruise at 75-80 and actually only be going right around 70-74 mph.

 

like patrick mentions tire height is just another way to play with gearing. if someone has an LS transmission the smaller tires could actually help since you would be in effect creating a lower final drive.

 

im going with 205/50/15

need brand help... .read previous post

 

i hadfalken ziex 912's for my all season/winter rims before i actually started doing things to my car.

they perform very nicely in summer and are also fairly above average/decent in the snow, i have about 20k on mine without rotation and they are still over about 65% tread life left, i would highly recommend them to anyone. idk the pricing, but i got 195/60/14's for 55each shipped from discounttiredirect

 

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...05&ar=50&rd=15

either the ziex 512's or the 912's are a very solid choice

 

No offense to you 95LS1t but if Ken says the 912's are a crappy tire, then I would tend to stay away from it.

 

so falken 512's or what about toyo proxes 4

 

they are far from great, i just had them on my car and didnt want to have 3 of the same and 1 different tire lol. i got my car in late august, so i wasnt dealing with blazing hot temperatures. For fall/winter they're a pretty good tire, i wouldnt use them for anything else.

You're going to have to give up somethings when you cannot have a strictly performance summer tire

no offense taken lol

 

The Parada Spec 2 is maybe the worst summer tire currently on the market. It's been around forever, and it's just CRAP. I don't know why Yokohama still sells it, except that people who don't know any better still buy them, apparently. Yokohama sells the S.drive, which is much much MUCH better in every way than those crappy Paradas. Stay away!!!

A little history may be helpful here. For a while now, tire manufacturers have been selling fairly inexpensive summer tires. In the late 1990s, some of the best of those available were the Dunlop FM901, the Kumho Ecsta Supra 712, and the Yokohama Parada Spec 2, all of which competed against each other. Around 2001, Yokohama introduced the ES100, and it just totally blew the others away, with performance improved in every way possible. (For example, the Tire Rack did a side-by-side comparison test of the ES100 against the Kumho 712, and the ES100 was better in all 23 out of the 23 characteristics they measured. A clean sweep!) Engineers at Dunlop and Kumho headed to the drawing boards because they knew they had to come up with better products to compete. It took them a few years, but Kumho came out with the SPT and discontinued the old crappy 712, and Dunlop came out with the Direzza DZ101 and discontinued the old crappy FM901. A year or two ago, Yokohama introduced the S.drive as the replacement for the ES100. Yet they're still selling those old crappy Paradas; I guess they figure some people are so ignorant that they'll still buy them. And apparently they're right! You can still see the comparison tests from 2002 on the Tire Rack website, where the old crappy FM901 beat the older crappier Parada Spec 2.

You need all-season tires. You don't want to be driving in freezing temps with light snow on summer tires.

Those are some of the drawbacks. And please - if you want to lower your car, do it the right way, by changing the suspension. NOT by getting the wrong size tires.

I just don't believe in getting the wrong size tires, in most situations. There are no advantages to it; most of what you have said are DISadvantages, or wrong-way workarounds to other problems. There is a right way and a wrong way to do things. If you want to lower the car, the right way to do it is with the suspension, not by getting the wrong size tires. If you want quicker acceleration, the right way to do it is to get a stickier tire (and/or to modify the engine and/or transmission gears), not by getting the wrong size tires.

Getting back to advising on which tires to use... Again, some all-season tires are better than others. The Kumho ASX and Goodyear Eagle GT are two of the best, reasonably-priced all-season tires. The Falken Ziex ZE-512 and ZE-912 are CRAP by comparison, and I don't recommend them. The Toyo Proxes 4 isn't as good as those two, either (although not as awful as the Falkens) and it costs just as much as the ASX or more.

 

im building a 94 integra around 800hp does anyone have an idea about what size wheel and slick combo i should go with

 

Ask in the Drag Racing forum. And don't keep posting the same question in multiple topics.

 

have you ever drove the neo gen for an all season NSX? i thought they seemed gripper than some of the other AS choices in summer weather. your advice on the s drive i completely agree with. not rated as all season but they are a wonderful tire. also, why are you so against tire height changes? all it's really doing in effecting your final drive ratio. on some cars with yaw stability like the z06 you can't alter size without throwing the computer off but on a teg, i've tried 22.4" to 23.8" tires and had zero problems with either. the 22.4s will even pep up a long geared LS transmission since you are doing something similar to using a deeper ring gear. personally i'm rolling 23.5" right now but it's mainly because of the tight J4D gearset.