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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 12:27 PM
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Was sitting in my car trying to get a damn coke from BK, and my buddies like "hey your going 80mph!".

The speedometer bounces all over, doesnt register accurate mph, the idle is substantially higher (around 1500r's or so warmed up), and the tail lights pulse when turned on.

Had my alt ran at advanced, said voltage was a tid low at first (higher 12's) at idle, but after a few mins the voltage went up, and during accel. the voltage was fine.

Scanned the codes, and the same codes its had basically.


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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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ttt hoes!!
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 03:59 PM
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i donno about you rpms being alittle high that might be your iacv or fitv. But regarding the speedometer i think its your cluster. I have a 1995 civic which does the same thing at times. some times it won't even work, sometimes it's normal. I thought it had something to do with my speedsensor but i was short on money so decided to leave it alone. After a couple of months problem was still there. I swapped a b18c1 into my civic and boom... same exact problem so i was able to eliminate my speed sensor. Try swapping clusters eventhough its a pain, but that might do it bro!
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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high 12's is basically battery voltage. your alternator should put out at least 13.5 volts all the time. as for the speedo and taillights, low battery voltage can cause electroning to act very weird. make sure the battery is getting the same voltage as the alternator is putting out.
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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um what do you mean the same codes basically that sounds like it could be your problem what codes were you getting
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 07:47 PM
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^Somebody tried converting my HX to an EX.. ex intake, ecu, exhaust etc.. so I got codes for the front o2, rear o2, iat..

But why would my cluster RANDOMLY decide to go out at Burger King??? And coincidentally, the lights start pulsing and the idle goes funky? After a few minutes or if you give the car gas, the voltage goes over 13.

So there is a good chance the alt. is shot, and the car is compensating for voltage loss thru upping the rpm's?
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 07:27 AM
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So I went back to BK today for another coke... my speedometer worked for about 4miles.. then started going whack again.

input input input
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 07:37 AM
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I had a friend that has a 98 civic hatch it was doing the same thing and it was a wire from the alternator that goes under the intake manifold. The bracket that held it rubbed the wire causing it to short out making his speedo go nuts and his lights to dim. also check your fuses for the speedo.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 07:46 AM
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Ahhhh well thats some good info. I'll check for that wire.

But everything else on the speedo still works.. if the speedo fuse was popped wouldn't the speedo not work period?
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 10:19 AM
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I say check all your ground wires to make sure everything is being grounded out fine. It almost sounds like you've got some kind of electrical noise going around screwing with your electronics.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 10:21 AM
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You gauge is done just get a new one and you will be fine had it happen on 2 of my civics.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Perfect Balance
I say check all your ground wires to make sure everything is being grounded out fine. It almost sounds like you've got some kind of electrical noise going around screwing with your electronics.
Grounds look fine to me..

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You gauge is done just get a new one and you will be fine had it happen on 2 of my civics.
Oh so this is relatively common? Is it a pain to replace them? All I have to do is order a new whiteface gauge setup (or whatever color you like) and replace it? Whats the excuse for my idle being high and pulsing, and my tail lights pulsing with the idle?
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 10:55 AM
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cluster is pretty easy to change.
the idle is problaly a lack of voltage ( regulator in the alternator most likely) and the car is compensating for it.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 11:02 AM
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^Thats what this honda dude told me.. so it's more than likely a dead or dying alternator then?
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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yes, try a new alternator.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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ok coolio. Just wanted to make sure before I bought a hefty-priced alternator from advanced
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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Alts are much cheaper at Majestic.

NVM i just looked its a good bit cheaper at AutoZone.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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116$ is kinda pooey.. I was hoping for sub 100$ alternator replacement
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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cluster problem is definitely the cluster itself.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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I've had other cars though that have done the same thing to the speedo.. and all these symptoms came pretty much at the same time..
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 07:10 PM
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bad VSS maybe? i would doubt changing your guage cluster would help.... the chances of an internal short on that clusters board is alot less common than a faulty sensor or bad charging system :-\
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 07:23 AM
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Wouldn't a VSS throw a code? There was no codes for anything like that
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 07:34 AM
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for your speedo problem check your vss.
its located ontop of your transmition housing towards the firewall
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 09:30 AM
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Well the car finally started cranking slowly today.. hooked it up to one of my other cars and put a quick charge on it and it was fine. It's the alt. I'll check the vss though.. thanks
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 10:59 AM
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My '96 hatch did the same thing when i bought it so i bought a ex cluster and it worked perfectly after plus i got a tach so SWEET
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