I see a sticky about why pnp kits are horrible.yes s o m e do have a glare.some just shake alot.ok so now with all the knowledge out there about these what kind of kit do you recomend i get?craigslist has the pnp kits for 80 bucks.i dont see anything else with superior quality,or glare prooof at that.lolwhat do you guys think.links to other site welcome.

 

kits are garbage. Period. There is no good "kit".

Sometimes you can find the components to do a projector retrofit sold together as a "kit" but it still requires custom work to get them inside your factory headlights. But believe me, it's worth it to have that OEM HID beam pattern on the road in front of you, not blinding anyone or putting light where you don't need it.

 

i have projector headlights on but what i am asking is what kit reigns supreme over all the other kits.

 

NONE OF THEM!

Seriously, is this so hard to understand?

Halogen projectors make for craptastic HID projectors (aside from a very small list of exceptions, none of which are OEM on a Honda).

Just go to the sponsor's forum and buy a kit. I hope you get the ticket you deserve for running it too, just as I hope every single other punk who thinks its ok to blind other drivers and compromise their safety because he wants "cool looking lights" also gets a ticket.

 

It's funny, people with HID in projector conversions are less dangerous than people with no glare shields in reflectors. While the aftermarket projectors aren't the best the fact that they have a cut off shield makes them LESS of a problem than reflectors with no glare shields. The only reason most anybody has an opinon of pnp kits is cause they read all sorts of "PNP KITS ARE BAD" posts, understanding what makes pnp kits bad is always left by the way side over the grand sweeping point.

I've been blinding by lifted trucks and people with misaimed FACTORY hid's more often than the people with pnp kits... Educate yourself further than just reading post, do you have personal experiance in use of kits or do you just read post? I've installed kits in all sorts of various vehicles with factory lights and aftermarket projectors, I speak from personal experiance.

 

True. I was rather upset at other things when I wrote that (including a punk kid in my condo complex running an 8K+ kit in his obviously misadjusted aftermarket halogen projectors).

That said, a HID kit in a halogen projector is still very blinding, due to the narrower beam pattern compared to a HID projector. You're now putting 3X the light in the same narrow area.

Do it right, or don't do it at all. The safety of others is involved here. Nothing more. Do any and every modification to your cars you want to (its your car, your money, and your life), as long as they only reduce your safety and do not pose a risk to those around you on the road.

My car is lowered. There's plenty of proof of just how much dangerous this makes the car (seriously, its much more dangerous in an accident for the lowered car when it crashes with a stock height car). My car, my choice, my life (and my passengers as well actually), but no safety reduction to others on the road around me.

So yeah, I hope everyone with a HID kit gets a ticket. I also hope manufacturers understand that safety is not something to only provide for high end luxury cars, and OEM HIDs become much more common place.

 

I used to have an HID kit in my stock Integra projectors. Glare isn't so much of an issue with the projectors, but the stock projectors just suck **** when it comes to putting the light on the ground. The beam pattern is extremely narrow compared to that from HID projectors, and most of the light hits the ground about 20-ft. in front of the car where it's completely useless when going any faster than 20 mph.

 

That's because they sit higher than usual and most of them, if not all, are american made without a manual or autoleveling system. That means, whenever they have something on the trunk or rearseats, they will raise up the headlights. Thus, the cutoff will move up.

 

Beyond the cut off being cut crooked the projectors I had after being aimed you had to be at/below the cut off to be blinded at all, hell my oe clone fogs have more glare than my hid pnp kit'd projectors...


My comment about the lifted trucks isn't a redirection comment (and yes I know about auto leveling headlights which they're only using on hid projectors anyways), it's more pointing out the fact that people freak out about HID pnp kits and yet in my daily affairs it's more common to be blinded by OE set ups with halogens, and mis-aimed factory HIDs than the one on god only knows how many that's a pnp kit user (I've noticed that Audi I think A4's seem to be the worst with pnp kits for glare).

Retrofits are always the way to go BUT this is only if the person doing the install knows what they're doing. There is a video on Youtube where the guy is doing a retrofit and in the process of it he shows "trimming" down his Infinity FX projector by using visegrips to break off the metal that's in his way.... He then uses clear silicon rubber to adhear the projector to the hole while manually aligning the output (not adjusters what so ever) and tapes it up while the silicon cures. This isnt' the worst way to do an install retrofit but it can still lead to glare and a mis-aimed projector.


In the end it's a cost factor. You can buy really quality halogen bulbs from the UK for like 80 bucks or a pnp kit for the same price or do a retrofit for several times more. Better bulbs from the UK are good but the cost and wait time makes it not quite worth it. PNP kits are simple and most people like the instant increase in light (and don't know/care about the glare or output) and a retrofit is the best option but the cost involved to buy the right equipment can be quickly overwelming and retrofitters charge a pretty penny for their services....

 

This is what u should get

 

Seriously if he's not already on the hid board he won't know what he's looking at... And with a stack like that I gotta wonder where you work or who you know...

 

i know how and where to look for these. And I'm getting them for my family. Time to drop those cheapo HID kits some of my cousins have lol