I am currently looking for a new engine for my car before boosting it as it has 250 000 k's on it now.I am wondering if I were to piece a Y8 together as a complete Y8 ...but basically build it as I go piece by piece and build with performance parts, how much does everyone think it would cost in the end?


I mean good forged pistons to lower compression,rods, valves,springs,cam,etc,etc.......Make a decent Dy8 that could take boosting?

I am having a hard time finding a Y8 near me for sale so I was thinking about building it piece by piece....get the block and put good pistons in and crank with rods....get a head for it and put in new springs and valves...you get the idea.


Build a Y8 one piece at a time with all performance parts to handle boost...nothing crazy ...I just want like 250 whp.....

 

250WHP? to handle that all you need is better rods, rod bolts (ARP), better oil pump, and better head bolts (ARP). Then i'd also replace the piston rings, and all the bearings and seals.

 

B18C5 with bolt-ons juice and tune...

 

How much do ya think it would cost around to rebuild the engine if you already had it and wanted to replace all the internals?

 

Why do you always tell people to swap out their D-series for a B when they don't want more power than the D-series is capable?

For less money, you can make 250WHP on the engine he has.

 

Id say about 2 grand. It depends on parts and labor. I'd go with a z6 though. Seems like when turbo'd they have less problems with oil feed and the water pump. I built my z6 for 1500 labor done by myself.

 

Because the gap of money being saved in keeping the D is not a substantial amount, might as well put out approximately 15% more and go B! Also, making 250 whp on a D is not as efficient as a B making the same power. That's just my .02 cents.

 

But if you spend the extra 15% on a B swap, it's still not going to reach his goal of 250WHP.

 

OK you're right, I was just trying to persuade this guy in doing the right thing... My close friend built a heavily modded turbo D making in excess of 265 whp.. But after dumping close to 6 grand he kinda felt like a frog with camel nuts with herpes on the side... And the main factor I'm leading him in to choosing the B over the D is if he has money to build a D, he should have EXTRA beans laying around to go B!

Also,
B > D
DOHC > SOHC
Balanced piston and rods from the factory > non balanced pistons from the factory
B tranny > D tranny
Burger King > Mcdonalds

 

Ok if I wanna run 250 whp by way of boosting it on a stock Y8...what should I change from stock internals to performance internals in order to run my turbo to make say 200 daily hp...but if the need is there to increase boost to take me to around say 250 whp....what should be changed?

I am thinking the rods,block guard,maybe some fresh pistons....not sure what else


This engine will be going in as a daily driver and will be boosted...I wanna make sure the engine will be able to handle the daily driving under the boost and like I said if the need arises to run a couple more lbs I wont have to worry about the engine caving on me.


Or lets say to run 250 whp every day as a daily driver, what should be upgraded to do this without worry

 

was looking at a B swap before but this will be a daily driver so the fact of trying to find the right parts by model # or by my car info will be all different due to the engine swap.....that would be a pain in the rear am I wrong?

But to go with a B for my 99 EX, what B should I go with or the easiest and cheapest B swap that could handle a daily 250 whp under boost the best.....

Also to swap to a B...what has to be changed besides engine? Axles,ECU,tranny etc? I am not sure what would be needed or if anything on my car now would work with a swap?


Thanks for all the input as well....I wanna make the best decision for what I want to do

 

must have been a shitty build, 265whp on a z6 can be done fairly cheap and be streetable.
i could do a whole lot better for 6gs

 

Wrong.


99-00 USDM Civic SI B16 would be the cheapest...

Simply do a quick search and you'll see that as long as you have the basics (motor, tranny), it's not that much stuff. It's not like your swapping in a K...

Plus you can always swap in a B20 block and have the benefits of added torque...

 

bro build the y8 you have, you need a fuel pump, 550cc injectors would be fine, oil returns as well as oil pump(weak as hell in y8), rods, rod bolts, piston rings, new bearings, head studs. top end you can change the cam but remember then you need springs, retainers, cam gear etc.
might sound like a lot, but not all that pricey.


the key to a turbo build is all in the tune. read around on here, lots of tune talk and places near you with good reputations along with the software they use, chrome, neptune, hondata. call them up, discuss your build and take in your info and tell them what your aiming for.

i have done two d series builds and both were dailys over 250whp and ran for 2 plus years and as far as i know the new owners still have no problems.

 

That's his daily boost settings with the turbo (T3) runnning @ 50% efficiency... And he went with high end parts including Greddy turbo kit... I can also do a whole lot better with 6g's since I have hookups and mechanically inclined but, it looks like this kid CJ's99Civic is gonna have to be paying out of his rectum to shops and mechanics.....

 

And don't get me wrong, I am definately not bashing the D series... I currently have two EK hatchbacks which both have D series in em... The fact is I am using the D series for what it was intended for, economical reliability!!! The B-series on the other hand is alot STRONGER has more POTENTIAL, has thee BIGGEST AFTERMARKET PERFOMANCE PARTS available...THE END

 

Haha, "high end parts" and "Greddy turbo kit" do not belong in the same sentence. You're a ****ing tool. If you have no useful information pertaining to the thread starters TOPIC then stay out. He wants to build a D series, not a B.

 

To use a B20 block........and build the rest with????And would I have to change motor mounts to incorporate a B series?

Sorry guys I am new to the swap world....dont get me wrong, I know about cars but I have never done a swap etc....



Basically I wanted to go with a Y8 because it is a lil' more powerful than my Y7 in there now...second it will bolt up to my tranny in there now and same ecu and everything....just pull engine and drop in the Y8...


If a B swap was this easy I would definately go for that...I want to be able to give a shop my car model ..EX and tell them its a 1.6 or whatever they need and be able to get a new exhaust gasket or something...ya know what I mean

 

A D-series will go as far as you want it to go, man. Don't let someone tell you that it's not possible (within limits; be reasonable here) because in reality you can reach your goals. A modest 250 hp can be reached almost on a stock block. When I say almost, I mean it really can be reached, but it won't last long.

To swap to B series is obviously going to be more expensive, but it will be more power than you're looking for at a higher price.

 

sorry to tell you greddy isn't hi end. manifolds blow d*ck. garrett or morgan warner is good ****. piece your kit together...

 

goto HMO, b16a2 swap will run you another 2400 and a gsr will take you near 3000 then to build on top of that. a setup like a suggested can be done for around 3000 to 3500. so its d= aprox. 250whp or stock b= 140 hopefuly whp.

up to you... be unique and go d.... everyone, their brother, and grandma has a b series anymore.

 

damn man, don't even do all that. just put the Y8 head on the Y7.
unless of course you're getting a Y8 reallllly cheap. Then just drop it in, swap engine harness, swap ECU and call it a day.

Well, D-series isn't what I would call unique (I get your point though). It's not even really about being different, it's about sticking up for and having pride in the D-series, which is completely underrated.

I love my D16, and if I had unlimited funds I would still build it and turbo it instead of doing a swap.

Don't do it the easy way and get a swap, do it the way where you have to think and think hard to squeeze every last pony out of that SOHC bastard. You'll learn more anyway, and you won't turn into a DOHC fanboi like most of the Honda scene nowadays.

IMO, even though it's not the most powerful of course or even close, the D16Z6 is one of Honda's best four cylinder engines of all time.

 

Thanks for the info guys...Just gonna reinforce the Y8 and boost it.

 

dont waste your money on forged pistons. Only if you are doing REALLY HIGH hp (400/450+WHP) do you need forged pistons. Get a D16 block, get some SCAT or Eagle H-Beam rods (sometimes you can find sets on ebay getting liquidated), and get some 75MM vitara pistons (set can be found on ebay with hastings for like $140 shipped). Get some ACL duraglide bearings and use the stock D16 crank.
this setup will give you like 7.64CR with a Z6 head and headgasket. if you want higher CR likearound 8.5, then get the custom length I-Beam rods sold by fjtdistributors (or something like that lol). The parts will cost you between 400-600$. from there it depends on what else you get, but that build will handle a nice amount of boost (easy 300WHP).

 

Now theres the info I was hoping for...Thanks Jimster....What about intake...just the Y8 intake? Thanks again