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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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gsr motor and gsr tranny, i got a stage 2 act clutch, clutch n flyweel is on. but the tranny will not fully get flush. out of frustration i ground off the stupid guide things. but it stilll wont fit on....can anyone throw me ideas? i tried wiggling itand kicking and everythign. its bolted up and now in the car but still not flush, and now the threads are dying any1 have this problem before?
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 05:09 PM
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you cut off the dowell pins?

you used a clutch align tool i assume? is the input shaft in the clutch and pilot bearing and hanging on the splines?

patience is your friend when attempting this.
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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you cut off the dowell pins?

you used a clutch align tool i assume? is the input shaft in the clutch and pilot bearing and hanging on the splines?

patience is your friend when attempting this.
Only thing I want to add. Did you remove the intermediate shaft? The Intermediate shaft (or driver's side axle if its a D-series) just never seems to want to cooperate. I tried replacing a tranny without removing it once and finally gave up, had no problem at all after removing the axle.
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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you know what i never thought of that i just always assume people take them out.
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the dowel pins were bent n gay
is the input shaft in the clutch and pilot bearing and hanging on the splines???? i used the tool. the small bearing goes in the flywheel right? and the big bearing with the hooks is on the fork dealy in the tranny at the end of the shaft. all the parts are put to gether to spec
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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does it matter if the tranny is in nuetral or not? i have the linkage on flailing in the wind swithcing gears by it self on the ground...i know i know, im dum
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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yes the axels are out and the shaft. theres nothin in it or on it but the tranny mount and the motor
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 05:27 PM
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the dowell pins are bent and gay. how did they get bent? they play an integral role in not breaking trans cases. i was just making sure you used a clutch align tool.
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 06:12 AM
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does the transsmission have to be in nuetral to fit in? or does it not matter what gear its in?
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 06:36 AM
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No, it doesn't matter what gear it's in. Those dowel pins are rather important. The dowels make sure the tranny is properly aligned to the block and the bolts are there to hold it in place. For the sake of your input shaft, bearings, and probably the clutch, get new dowel pins.

As for the fit, if you didn't use an alignment tool, get one and start over. If you have, then you just need to be patient and wiggle the trans as you push it on. You may want to thread in one of the top bolts to hold it while you wiggle, but it will go on. Maybe put a little bit of grease on the tip of the input shaft and a little on those new dowel pins you are going to buy.
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thanks alot. ill try again when its not 14 degrees out
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 07:35 AM
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thanks alot. ill try again when its not 14 degrees out
Well, there's your problem It's just too cold out to work on your car!
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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Well, there's your problem It's just too cold out to work on your car!
Definatly way too cold HAHA!
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 11:11 AM
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Try the fit of the clutch disc on the input shaft? Could be the wrong clutch disc, happened to me before, they sold me the wrong one
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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Try the fit of the clutch disc on the input shaft? Could be the wrong clutch disc, happened to me before, they sold me the wrong one
I don't think it's that. He's saying that there is a small gap...which would imply that he's not getting the end of the input shaft into the input shaft bearing.
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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True. Just a thought, like I said, caused a similar problem for me in the past.
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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for sure u need to check that the clutch fits the input shaft. and make sure it's lined up right
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 06:14 PM
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A friend of mine had the same problem, he put the throw out bearing up side down and didnt enter all the way down, if not it could only be the aligment
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 06:34 PM
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nevermind i welded the transmission on
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 06:44 PM
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lol wut.
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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nevermind i welded the transmission on
Are you serious?
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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nevermind i welded the transmission on
You did what?!?! Pics or it never happened. Most guys don't have the tools or ability to weld aluminum, those that do generally know better than to weld a bell housing to an engine block. Congratulations, you now have a clutch that will never release, not to mention a transmission input shaft that likely isn't supported by the pilot bearing. All this on top of a ruined bell housing and block. Come on now, you had to know that was a stupid idea. If you get in a situation like this you *gasp* pull the tranny back off and see whats going on, maybe the pilot bearing was wrong and the internal hole was too small, maybe the clutch disc is bent because the transmission wasn't properly supported not allowing the tip of the input shaft to line up with the pilot bearing.
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Originally Posted by rick_rabies
nevermind i welded the transmission on
wow.....
Old Mar 12, 2009 | 07:19 AM
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come on, you realy think i did that? when its warm i will check the alignment again and try again, if it still dont fit ill just put my k20 in and set my gsr motor on fire
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How are you going to put a k20 in? You can't even get a bseries transmission...on a B series engine. :[



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