I was getting tired of the range on my valet keyless so I went ahead and bought a viper 5501 and haven't had a chance to look at the installation manual.
Has anyone had experience with it or any of the similar models?
My car is a '94 accord lx 4dr.
Just want to know if you guys can give me a head start on figuring out what to do.
I'm about to go to work and I'll be looking at the manual during work and will get to figuring out the install after work.
Just to let you know how tho that Im already conffused.
Why so many input and outputs for the remote start? Lol
Where does everything go.
Even the door locks make no sense. It says unlock ouput then lock on the same wire.
Thanks for any of the early help.

 

I guess people are out on a Friday night. Lol. I'm stuck at work for another 2 hours.
Anyways. I've gone through the manual and seem to know what I'm doing.
But I need to know if my car needs to ignitions wire connections? Or two starter wire? Or any remote start auxilary connections?
If not then it is pretty easy.
How do I connect that new tach wire tho?
Where or how do I get to the ground for the park and neutral gear?
Uhm... I'll let you know what else.

 

Also. Which is my starter wire?

 

Primary Harness:
1 - Red/White - Trunk Release (Not needed)
2 - Red - +12V Constant Input (Ignition harness i forgot the color but i have it somewhere)
3 - Brown - Horn (I still havent been able to find it >.>)
4 - White/Brown - Light Flash Isolation Wire (Dont need?)
5 - Black - Ground
6 - Violet - (+) door trigger input (Dont need)
7 - Blue - (-) Factory Horn Input (Dont need right?)
8 - Green - (-) Door trigger input (Dome light as trigger)
9 - Black/white - (-)200mA dome light output (hook up to domelight)
10 - White/Blue - (-) Remote Start/Turbo Timer Activation Input ( dont know? it seems like its a which that comes with it? o.O or what is this?)
11 - White - Parking Light Output (hook up to parking light wire)
12 - Orange - ground when armed output (dont need)

Auxiliary Harness:
1- Light Green/Black - Factory Alarm Disarm (dont need)
2 - Lt Green/White - Factory Alarm Arm (dont need)
3 - White/Violet - Aux 1 (dont need)
...(etc) Aux 2-3 (dont need)
6 - Light Blue - 2nd unlock (dont need)
7 - Gray/Black - Diesel wait to start (dont need)

Heavy Gauge Remote Start Harness:
1 - Pink - (+)ignition 1input/output
2 - Red/White: (+) fused ignition 2 / flex relay input 87
3 - Orange: Accessory Output
4 - Violet: Starter Output
5 - Red: (+) Fused Ignition Input
6 - Pink/White: Ignition 2 / Flex Relay Output 30
7 - Pink/Black: Flex Relay Input 87A key side (if required) of Flex Relay
8 - Red/Black (+) Fused Accessory/Starter Input

Remote Start Input Harness:
1 - Black/White: (-) Neutral Safety Switch Input (i understand this but where is the wire for it?)
2 - Violet/White: Tachometer Input (what wire do i use?)
3 - Brown: (+) brake shutdown input (where is the wire?)
4 - Gray: N/O or N/C (-) Hood Pin Switch Input (hood pin supplied)
5 - Blue/White: (-)200mA 2nd status/rear defogger output (if its easy to do ill do it but i dont really care for it)

Remote Start Auxiliary Output Harness:
1- Pink/White: (-)200mA Flex Relay Control Ouput
2- Orange: (-)200mA Accessory Ouput
3- Violet: (-)200mA Starter Ouput
4- Pink: (-)200mA Ignition 1 Output
5- Blue: (-)200mA Status Ouput

Door Lock Harness:
1- Blue: (+) Lock (-) Unlock Ouput .. (i use this for my (-) unlock output)?
2-Empty
3- Green: (-) Lock (+) Unlock Output .. (i use this for my (-) Lock output)?



.... i honestly dont even understand much of the remote start ones because of all the relay confusion >.>

 

1994 Honda Accord DirectWire 2.0 Vehicle Information


Remote Start


Item Wire Color Polarity Wire Location
12 Volts white + ignition harness
Second 12 Volts
Starter black/white + ignition harness
Second Starter
Ignition black/yellow + ignition harness
Second Ignition
Third Ignition
Accessory yellow + ignition harness
Second Accessory
Third Accessory
Keysense
Data Bus
Can Bus High
Can Bus Low
Can Bus Sw
Power Lock black/white - gry conn. above fuse box in blu tape
Power Unlock orange - gry conn. above fuse box in blu tape
Lock Motor
Driver Unlock Motor
Parking Lights (-)
Parking Lights (+) red/black + fuse box, blue plug
Also a male blade terminal is available in the fusebox DKP.

Hazards
Turn Signal (Left)
Turn Signal (Right)
Headlight blue - blue plug left of column
AutoLights
Reverse Light
Left Front Door Trigger black/white - gray plug right of column
Right Front Door Trigger
Left Rear Door Trigger
Right Rear Door Trigger
Dome Supervision use door trigger wire
Trunk/Hatch Pin orange - gray plug right of column
Rear Glass Pin
Hood Pin
Trunk/Hatch Release
Trunk Release Motor
Fuel Door Release
Power Sliding Door (Left)
Power Sliding Door (Right)
Factory Alarm Arm
Factory Alarm Disarm
Disarm No Unlock
Trunk Alarm Shunt
Tachometer blue ac distributor
Wait to Start
Neutral Safety
Clutch Pedal
Fuel Pump
Rear Defroster
Mirror Defroster
Left Front Heated Seat
Right Front Heated Seat
Speed Sense
Brake Wire green/white + brake pedal switch
Parking Brake
Horn Trigger blue/red or green/blue - horn switch
Wipers blue - brown plug left of column
Memory Seat 1
Memory Seat 2
Memory Seat 3

 

.. So according to that...



Heavy Gauge Remote Start Harness:
1 - Pink - (+)ignition 1input/output ( ignition wire)
2 - Red/White: (+) fused ignition 2 / flex relay input 87 (Dont need)
3 - Orange: Accessory Output (..still not sure?)
4 - Violet: Starter Output (Starter wire)
5 - Red: (+) Fused Ignition Input (dont need)
6 - Pink/White: Ignition 2 / Flex Relay Output 30 (dont need)
7 - Pink/Black: Flex Relay Input 87A key side (if required) of Flex Relay (dont need)
8 - Red/Black (+) Fused Accessory/Starter Input (dont need)?

what about that other harness?

 

"Trunk/Hatch Pin orange - gray plug right of column "
- So i can actually use the remote for opening the trunk if i hook up that one wire?

"Horn Trigger blue/red or green/blue - horn switch "
- IN the steering wheel? cuz its not in the little housing right behind the steering wheel is it?

"Brake Wire green/white + brake pedal switch"
- what brake pedal switch?

 

This is for a auto not manual transmission

Primary Harness:
1 - Red/White - you car does not have a power truck, must add motor to use this feature
2 - Red - +12V Constant Input White at the ignition harness
3 - Brown - goes to the red wire of the siren
4 - White/Brown - remove
5 - Black - Ground
6 - Violet - remove
7 - Blue - (-) Trunk trigger orange - gray plug right of column
8 - Green - (-) Door trigger black/white - gray plug right of column
9 - Black/white - must use relay
10 - White/Blue - remove
11 - White - red/black + fuse box, blue plug
12 - Orange - save for future use.

Auxiliary Harness: <---save this harness for future use.
1- Light Green/Black - Factory Alarm Disarm (dont need)
2 - Lt Green/White - Factory Alarm Arm (dont need)
3 - White/Violet - Aux 1 (dont need)
...(etc) Aux 2-3 (dont need)
6 - Light Blue - 2nd unlock (dont need)
7 - Gray/Black - Diesel wait to start (dont need)

Heavy Gauge Remote Start Harness:
1 - Pink - (+) black/yellow + ignition harness
2 - Red/White: (+) Remove
3 - Orange: yellow + ignition harness
4 - Violet: See note below *
5 - Red: (+) white + ignition harness
6 - Pink/White: Remove
7 - Pink/Black: Remove
8 - Red/Black (+) white + ignition harness
9 - Greeb: See note below*

Remote Start Input Harness:
1 - Black/White: (-) Ground this wire with primary alarm ground
2 - Violet/White: Tachometer blue ac distributor
3 - Brown: (+) brake shutdown green/white + brake pedal switch
4 - Gray: N/O or N/C (-) Hood Pin Switch Input (hood pin supplied)
5 - Blue/White: (-)200mA 2nd status/rear defogger output (if its easy to do ill do it but i dont really care for it)

Remote Start Auxiliary Output Harness: <---no use
1- Pink/White: (-)200mA Flex Relay Control Ouput
2- Orange: (-)200mA Accessory Ouput
3- Violet: (-)200mA Starter Ouput
4- Pink: (-)200mA Ignition 1 Output
5- Blue: (-)200mA Status Ouput

Door Lock Harness:
1- Blue: (-) Unlock orange - gry conn. above fuse box in blu tape
2-Empty
3- Green: (-) Lock black/white - gry conn. above fuse box in blu tape

Note * the start wire is black wit hwhite strip. you must cut this wire.
Once cut you will have two wire. key side goes into the green wire of the heavy gauge
the remaing black w/white goes to the purple of the heavy gauge harness,

 

Heavy Gauge Remote Start Harness:
1 - Pink - (+)ignition 1input/output (To ignition wire?)
2 - Red/White: (+) remove
3 - Orange: Accessory Output (To what?)
4 - Violet: Starter Output (To starter wire)
5 - Red: (+) Fused Ignition Input (To what?)
6 - Pink/White: remove
7 - Pink/Black: remove
8 - Red/Black (+) Fused Accessory/Starter Input (What do i do with this)

 

How am i suppose to do a relay for the domelight? (Im sorry, im still a noob at relays. Haven't gotten the grasp of them)

I didn't have to learn it on the other cuz it was built in and just had to hook it up straight to the domelight wire..

 

See the note above has been edited.

 

The output is only 200ma with is not enough to power/ground a light buld.
to make the output stronger u have to use a relay.

sorry about my spelling. Just tired.......

 

there is no green wire? in the heavy gauge harness

 

so the constand +12 for the system and the #5 on the heavy gauge go both to the white ignition wire?

 

"2 - Violet/White: Tachometer blue ac distributor "
- where is that? or what is it?

 

there is a misprint in the manual
check the heavy gauge harness itself.
There is a green wire.

Trust me I installed enough this things. Come to think of it I always passed that part of the maual cause I know DEI wiring by memory.

 

your distributor on the engine you know where all the spark plug wires goes to.
there is two harness at the distributor
one of the harness has a blue wire in it.

 

haha im checking everything and de-pinning stuff.. to see where im at. thanks for the help!.. still a couple of thigns to figure out but we'll see..

ill be doing this on sunday. i work tomorrow. so till then to figure it out.

 

Best of luck. Good night. I'm off to la la land.

 

does anyone know how to de-pin the heavy gauge harness? it doesn't have the pins outside..

also how do i open the access door on the viper to get to the polarity fuse for the parking lights?

 

also..can someone clarify the heavy gauge harness please?..
sry but i checked and there is no green wire on the harness. There is no misprint. there are only 8wires on the harness.. Just as i posted in the first post with all the harness + wires.


and does anyone know if anything is wrong or can add to any of this?

thank you..

 

The Viper 5501 does not have a built-in starter cut relay sot there is no green lead, the violet starter output lead is connected directly to the cars black/white starter lead, [no cutting].

Yes you need a relay for the dome lights, this may help... http://www.the12volt.com/relays/relays.asp

Here is a tag in sheet for your car... http://64.85.6.121/diagrams/printpag...12648&MakeID=3 94

Feel free to PM me if you have questions, will be in all day Sunday.

 

Heavy Gauge Remote Start Harness:
1 - Pink:............(+) black/yellow in ignition harness
2 - Red/White:....Remove
3 - Orange:........(+) yellow in ignition harness (manual says this is to the wire that controls climate control.. is that fine there?)
4 - Violet: .........(+) black/white
5 - Red:.............(+) white in ignition harness
6 - Pink/White:....Remove
7 - Pink/Black:.....Remove
8 - Red/Black:.....(+) white in ignition harness

...so is this setup accurate?..
is everything else accurate?
still missing like 2wires somewhere i think it is.. (starting to look it up now)

 

I take that back. there is no green wire in the heavy gauge.
I was think of viper 5901 . 5501 is a keyless/remote start so you're right there is no green.

so then the pink heavy gauge goes to black with white strip in igntion harness.

 

Okay. Both of you are telling me different things. Check my first post with the full description of what the heavy gauge wires do and let me know. Thank you.