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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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Default Need help welding ....pros step in.

ok im very interested in learning how to weld ,im just not sure were to start .i need help picking a welder ,im looking for a nice novice welder .


Is there any good welders for under $500?

i just found this on ebay should i give it a try??
http://cgi.ebay.com/MIG-135G-MAG-WEL...3A1%7C294%3A50




what kind of welder is need to weld these things?


1.intercooler piping
2.exaust
3.turbo manifolds

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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 11:40 AM
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You can definitely find a good used 220v Mig for that price. A decent Tig will cost more.

If you are going to weld aluminum, a Tig is the way to go. If you are working with ferrous metals only, a Mig would be fine and is easier to learn with.
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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You can definitely find a good used 220v Mig for that price. A decent Tig will cost more.

If you are going to weld aluminum, a Tig is the way to go. If you are working with ferrous metals only, a Mig would be fine and is easier to learn with.
so i need a tig for aluminim ----ic piping

and a mig for metel welding

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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 12:37 PM
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You can Mig aluminum but its much better with a tig especially for intercooler piping. If that is what you want to do then save for a nice tig welder that can do aluminum. You will not need a mig if you have a tig.

I dont know where you are located but search on craigslist for deals!...

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/tls/1060700119.html
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by champLSinteg
You can Mig aluminum but its much better with a tig especially for intercooler piping. If that is what you want to do then save for a nice tig welder that can do aluminum. You will not need a mig if you have a tig.

I dont know where you are located but search on craigslist for deals!...

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/tls/1060700119.html
ok great but if i just get the tig welder can i also weld metels for turbo manifolds ?
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 12:47 PM
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Yes
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 01:59 PM
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Yes
ok thanks
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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Remember there is a lot more stuff to buy besides the welder. You can easily spend just as much on decent accessories as you do on the welding machine itself.
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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Remember there is a lot more stuff to buy besides the welder. You can easily spend just as much on decent accessories as you do on the welding machine itself.
Yes im looking that up now
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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Default Re: Need help welding ....pros step in.

anybody else
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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Default Re: Need help welding ....pros step in.

Originally Posted by champLSinteg
You will not need a mig if you have a tig.
I don't think I'd go that far. MIG certainly has a convenience factor and a quickness factor that pays as well. Mild steel exhaust repairs are a big one, along with doing basic fab. Mounting brackets for intercoolers, bracing, etc.

MIG is also great for tacking a job beneath a car that is then removed, prepped, and TIG'd.


O.P....the biggest fact here is, first of all, to buy an A/C capable TIG means spending some cash, and then you need to spend to get the accessories you need. Expect at least 300 or so to get up and running after having the machine. You'll want a gas lense, various cups, some consumables, at least one large bottle of straight argon, then a backpurge setup. Then of course your gonna want to set up some type of welding or fab table that you can keep grounded. Throw in an auto darkening helmet, a breathing mask (yes, you should use one) and gloves and your up to about 500-800 minimum to get running and truly capable of doing some legitemate fab.

There are certainly affordable options. I use a stainless food prep table from Sams club (100 bucks) and I freakin love it. Very cheap and works great. They are thin and will warp a bit over time, but for the cost of a stainless table you can't beat it. Hoods can also be bought cheap, but the downfalls are response time, adjustability to further protect your eyes, and overall quality (i.e. light sensors, etc).

It's like anything else....some people want to be photographers, so they save up for that Nikon D60 they want, only to find that the lenses cost more than the camera and you need multiples to truly get something done. Then you find that the Nikon D200 is really what you should've bought, then find the Nikon D300 is what you REALLY should've bought...and before you know it your looking at thousands versus the 600 bucks you tried to save up in the first place. Read up
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 04:31 AM
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Default Re: Need help welding ....pros step in.

Thanks RC that's what I meant just didn't feel like typing it all out.
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haha....80+wpm with no mistakes right here...I've hit 90+ with a couple mistakes. My friends made me do it. They say when I type it sounds like popcorn popping like crazy...hahahaaha.
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