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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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Just purchased two HID kits (6000K for low beams 8000K for high beams). Anyone know if having two HID kits is going to cause a problem? or be a pain in the *** to install?
Old Feb 28, 2009 | 12:54 PM
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for starters it's illegal...............
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its not illegal and no its not hard to install. i suggest u get a relay harness tho cuz its not good for the stock wiring.
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its not illegal and no its not hard to install. i suggest u get a relay harness tho cuz its not good for the stock wiring.
actually any aftermarket H.I.D. kit is illegal for sale or use in the united states but people will get them shipped from other countries..as for install it should be just plug and play if theres no wiring kit included. if there is there should be instructions with the kit.
Old Mar 1, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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Do you really use your high beams enough that you would need an HID kit for them?

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Do you really use your high beams enough that you would need an HID kit for them?


I don't to be honest with you. But i'm the type of person that has that "If i'm going to do it, i'm going to do it right" attitude... And I like overkill.


As far as the illegal comment goes- I understand that it is illegal to put after-market HID's, but it is also illegal to do any form of car maintenance in a "non-designated" spot, which includes something like an oil change. A friend of mind works for the local authorities and said that I should be fine, just depends on how the local officers are feeling that night if it flashes in their face.
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Originally Posted by derek696
I don't to be honest with you. But i'm the type of person that has that "If i'm going to do it, i'm going to do it right" attitude... And I like overkill.


As far as the illegal comment goes- I understand that it is illegal to put after-market HID's, but it is also illegal to do any form of car maintenance in a "non-designated" spot, which includes something like an oil change. A friend of mind works for the local authorities and said that I should be fine, just depends on how the local officers are feeling that night if it flashes in their face.
Where else would you do an oil change then?
Wow, some people just talk out of their ***
Kits are plug and play. You connect the ballast to your stock harness and then the amp connectors to the bulbs supplied by the kit. you twist the bulb in place on the back of your headlight and it's done.

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its not illegal and no its not hard to install. i suggest u get a relay harness tho cuz its not good for the stock wiring.
Go kill yourself
HID kits illegal by DOT and they did tests on them:
http://dastern.torque.net/techdocs/H..._HID_Retro.pdf
http://dastern.torque.net/techdocs/H..._HID_Retro.pdf

More on this:
http://dsl.torque.net/images/techdoc..._Crackdown.jpg
http://isearch.nhtsa.gov/files/Shih.3.html
http://isearch.nhtsa.gov/files/kim.ztv.html
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I don't to be honest with you. But i'm the type of person that has that "If i'm going to do it, i'm going to do it right" attitude... And I like overkill.
If you want to do things right then a HID kit is not the way to go. HID kits are for people that are too cheap to do things right.
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By all means i'm up to suggestions Spids5... I'm still very knew to car modifications.

Stricker18- Before you accuse others of "talking out of their asses" I would suggest getting your **** together a bit more first. In California it is illegal to do any form of car work that is not in a spot specifically for it (Mechanic shops/Car wash drive thru's etc...)

I'm assuming by your childish hostility your having a bad day (or 16 years old). There was no reason to start **** in a thread that was based off a simple question.
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I'm assuming by your childish hostility your having a bad day (or 16 years old). There was no reason to start **** in a thread that was based off a simple question.
That's just how quite a few of the members on here are.

By "do things right", I think he was referring to a projector retrofit.
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HID projector retrofit is the only way to go.

And HID in the high beams is pretty pointless IMHO. How often do you actually turn your high beams on and leave them on long enough for HID to warm up to full brightness? Usually you use them either for "flash-to-pass" which puts a TON of stress on the ballasts and bulbs (turning them on and off quickly, which they were not designed to do), or you turn them on and then usually have to turn them off again quickly when you see another car coming towards you.

Also keep in mind that by using a higher color temp for the high beams, those will actually put out LESS light than those in your low beams.
Old Mar 3, 2009 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by CG6Accord8o1
its not illegal and no its not hard to install. i suggest u get a relay harness tho cuz its not good for the stock wiring.
YES they are illegal any pnp kit is illegal for road use in the us!


a pnp kit is not doing it right
a retro fit is doing it right.
6000K for low beams 8000K for high beams.... thats just stupid.
the higher the kelvin rating the less light. sorry for sounding like a ***.
Old Mar 3, 2009 | 02:49 PM
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So getting the high beams was completely pointless and a waste of money... Heh- ok got that. To be honest with you, I do not know what a retrofit projector is. By all means if someone can shine some light?

98civdx, your cool bro.

Again, I am very knew to car modifications. I got into honda after owning a 96 ford thunderbird.
Old Mar 3, 2009 | 08:45 PM
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You custom fit projectors from a TSX, BMW, Lexus, etc. into your own headlights.

That's what a retrofit is in a nutshell.
Old Mar 3, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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Oh...****. haha
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Originally Posted by derek696

Stricker18- Before you accuse others of "talking out of their asses" I would suggest getting your **** together a bit more first. In California it is illegal to do any form of car work that is not in a spot specifically for it (Mechanic shops/Car wash drive thru's etc...)

I'm assuming by your childish hostility your having a bad day (or 16 years old). There was no reason to start **** in a thread that was based off a simple question.
Wrong again Mister.
http://www.arb.ca.gov/board/mt/mt072701.txt

If it violates emissions and how the operation of the engine works as a result of a violation of DOT codes, then it is illegal. But if it is a direct replacement done by a certified or qualified person, it is okay. You're just talking out of your ***.
Your simple question has been asked plenty of times. You never even read the sticky on the top of the forum for coming ricers like you.

And about "doing it right", you're still wrong about that one, too. That is what happens when you don't research yet you try and preach like you know what you're talking about when you probably listened to advises from other rice mobiles

Here's an example:
6,000K 55w HID kit
vs
4,300K Philips 35w bulbs + OEM ballasts on FX35 projectors
You be the judge:



vs

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Originally Posted by derek696
So getting the high beams was completely pointless and a waste of money... Heh- ok got that. To be honest with you, I do not know what a retrofit projector is. By all means if someone can shine some light?

98civdx, your cool bro.

Again, I am very knew to car modifications. I got into honda after owning a 96 ford thunderbird.
im not saying it was total point less if you live out in the country and use them alot sure,
but when you dont use them for a long enough for them to heat up and stuff its bad for them.
Crono139- said it.
look at the pics and a pnp kit will spread the light out all over the place,
but the top pics dont look half is bad is some look.
and then the bottom pic will a retro how there is that sharp cut off so you dont blind people, also keeping the light where you can see it and use it.
if i sounded like an *** hole before sorry didnt mean to, i didnt know you where new to moding cars.
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omg so much bull **** in here!

dude, buy w/e the **** you want to buy and rock that **** all day.

and like you said, EVERYTHING is illegal to modify on a car if you really wanna bust *****, i dont know why people try to be so self righteous on this web site!

i mean seriously do you think that if they are just rolling around with thier friends and they see a car with HID's they are gonna be like "hey guys, thats illegal, we should get his license plate and report him." - **** NO

so keep rocking w/e you want to rock on YOUR car and enjoy it, pics look good, personally i think hid's look ****in sick and i'll NEVER own another car EVER again without HID's cause now i'm used to them and i seriously feel blind with regular headlights, not to mention regular headlights seem to just utterly disappear around dusk and in street lamps.

i personally probably would have bought the double beam HID kit if i had the money to waste, but i didn't so i figured w/e i never use the high beams anyways and the 8K HIDS should be plenty when im driving around in the small town i live in (woods and ****)
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omg so much bull **** in here!

dude, buy w/e the **** you want to buy and rock that **** all day.
The only bs I see is your useless advice.

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and like you said, EVERYTHING is illegal to modify on a car if you really wanna bust *****, i dont know why people try to be so self righteous on this web site!
Not really. Even in California that are a lot of things on my car that I can legally modify, suspension, exterior, interior, carb legal intake/header/exhaust, etc. One thing that is illegal nationwide is HID kits.

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i mean seriously do you think that if they are just rolling around with thier friends and they see a car with HID's they are gonna be like "hey guys, thats illegal, we should get his license plate and report him." - **** NO
No one is saying that he is going to get reported but all HID kits do is blind on-coming traffic which is dangerous. That is why people are suggesting retrofits, they don't blind other drivers and you actually have usable light output. Isn't that the point in modifying your headlights? Or is it to look cool with your blue/purple headlights.

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so keep rocking w/e you want to rock on YOUR car and enjoy it, pics look good, personally i think hid's look ****in sick and i'll NEVER own another car EVER again without HID's cause now i'm used to them and i seriously feel blind with regular headlights, not to mention regular headlights seem to just utterly disappear around dusk and in street lamps.

i personally probably would have bought the double beam HID kit if i had the money to waste, but i didn't so i figured w/e i never use the high beams anyways and the 8K HIDS should be plenty when im driving around in the small town i live in (woods and ****)
8K is not even a temperature rating used by ANY HID kit manufacture, the K doesn't stand for 10^3 but Kelvin. If you don't know what Kelvin is or what the temperature ratings of light has to do with light you should look it up before giving advice. 8000 K is terrible if you are looking to actually having your headlights light up the road and not just "looking" cool.
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8K is not even a temperature rating used by ANY HID kit manufacture, the K doesn't stand for 10^3 but Kelvin. If you don't know what Kelvin is or what the temperature ratings of light has to do with light you should look it up before giving advice. 8000 K is terrible if you are looking to actually having your headlights light up the road and not just "looking" cool.
your the reason i cant stand hater-tech, too many over critical people trying to prove they are smarter than everyone else

i know what the temperature ratings and the temperature correlates to the color that is seen, and who gives a **** if a factory HID isn't 8K?? i know that, i have a little bit more style so i opted for a more blue-ish tint to my lights and you can say w/e you want, all i've ever gotten are compliments on my lights from everyone.

i think you can figure out what i mean, 8000K - there is that better? do i really have to spell out everything perfectly on the dam internet?

and just for your information, i have 8000K's on my civic, they are NOT blue, they are white with a blue tint, and i am aware that without retrofitting they have a sloppy cut off but i dont really care and before you say i blind everyone, i took that into consideration and adjusted the headlights down a little bit extra, and my lights shine 4-5x better than stock halogen bulbs STILL, and i can see just fine cause i have perfect 20/20 eyesight.

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The only bs I see is your useless advice.
your a total nerd with NO style, and you know absolutely NOTHING about vehicle laws

yeah all your stuff you buy might say DOT acceptable blah blah blah, but when it comes down to it, its completely illegal to modify ANY part of a car, period.

you must be naive, cause i've been pulled over by a state trooper and after arguing with him for a little bit about it, he actually went and printed it out for me from his car.
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your the reason i cant stand hater-tech, too many over critical people trying to prove they are smarter than everyone else

i know what the temperature ratings and the temperature correlates to the color that is seen, and who gives a **** if a factory HID isn't 8K?? i know that, i have a little bit more style so i opted for a more blue-ish tint to my lights and you can say w/e you want, all i've ever gotten are compliments on my lights from everyone.

i think you can figure out what i mean, 8000K - there is that better? do i really have to spell out everything perfectly on the dam internet?

and just for your information, i have 8000K's on my civic, they are NOT blue, they are white with a blue tint, and i am aware that without retrofitting they have a sloppy cut off but i dont really care and before you say i blind everyone, i took that into consideration and adjusted the headlights down a little bit extra, and my lights shine 4-5x better than stock halogen bulbs STILL, and i can see just fine cause i have perfect 20/20 eyesight.
Then don't come in here and act like we are just trying to talk ****. He wanted advice and we gave him good advice. Your advice was not good so I had to reply. I'm not trying to be an ******* but you really don't know what you are talking about when it comes to headlights. Part of my focus in electrical engineering was optics and lights and it is a pet peeve of mine when people give advice bad advice or don't really know what they are talking about.

You obviously don't know what the temperature ratings mean or what they have to do with light or you would stop saying 8 K. 8 Kelvin is not a temperature used, 8000 Kelvin is. 8 K does not equal 8000 K. Btw 8 K would probably be using red light bulbs to light up the road, probably not the best idea.

That is great that you got compliments, it must of been from other ricers that don't know **** about headlights. Your blue tinted headlights do not have the same usable light that white 4300 K headlights would have. If you were actually upgrading your headlights to light up the road that is what you would use not the 8000 K that "looks" cool and gets compliments.
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your a total nerd with NO style, and you know absolutely NOTHING about vehicle laws
I'm not a nerd, I'm just intelligent. Style? Do you even know me or are you just pissed off that you have ricer headlights.

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yeah all your stuff you buy might say DOT acceptable blah blah blah, but when it comes down to it, its completely illegal to modify ANY part of a car, period.

you must be naive, cause i've been pulled over by a state trooper and after arguing with him for a little bit about it, he actually went and printed it out for me from his car.
So it is illegal to put a carb legal intake on my car, lower my car or put different rims on my car? No it isn't so maybe you should STFU. Btw I have three friends that are city cops and one that is a chp and they all agree with me.
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Then don't come in here and act like we are just trying to talk ****. He wanted advice and we gave him good advice. Your advice was not good so I had to reply. I'm not trying to be an ******* but you really don't know what you are talking about when it comes to headlights. Part of my focus in electrical engineering was optics and lights and it is a pet peeve of mine when people give advice bad advice or don't really know what they are talking about.

You obviously don't know what the temperature ratings mean or what they have to do with light or you would stop saying 8 K. 8 Kelvin is not a temperature used, 8000 Kelvin is. 8 K does not equal 8000 K. Btw 8 K would probably be using red light bulbs to light up the road, probably not the best idea.

That is great that you got compliments, it must of been from other ricers that don't know **** about headlights. Your blue tinted headlights do not have the same usable light that white 4300 K headlights would have. If you were actually upgrading your headlights to light up the road that is what you would use not the 8000 K that "looks" cool and gets compliments.
OH MY GOD DUDE YOU KNOW WHAT I ****ING MEAN WHEN I WRITE 8K, WHAT IS THIS, ENGLISH CLASS?!?!?!

and my advice being bad is your OPINION. i gurantee i know more about cars than you ever will, and (just for you i'll write the FULL word) 8000 KELVIN HID's are a hell of a lot brighter than some shitty *** stock halogen lamps, you off all people should know that mr. light engineer english teacher
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It has nothing to do with English, 8 does not equal 8000 in any language. Just because you are to stupid or lazy to write 8000 doesn't mean it is right.



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