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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 06:43 PM
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i just replace my clutch and my throw out bearing and its still making that beautiful grinding sound when you release the clutch i just replaced it, how can i fix it thanks
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 06:57 PM
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 08:16 PM
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i just replace my clutch and my throw out bearing and its still making that beautiful grinding sound when you release the clutch i just replaced it, how can i fix it thanks
You replaced the wrong bearing.

A bad clutch release bearing will only make noise with the clutch pedal pushed in, because that's the only time it spins.

Bearing noise with the clutch pedal out in neutral is caused by the mainshaft bearings. Typically the inboard bearing is the culprit, but the outboard bearing can occasionally cause some noise.

Solution: Open the trans case and replace the inboard mainshaft bearing (also called the "input shaft bearing") and the main seal behind it. Do it before the bearing fails completely and damages the mainshaft and the case. Check the outboard bearing while you're in there and replace if it is rough or noisy.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 09:36 PM
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You replaced the wrong bearing.

A bad clutch release bearing will only make noise with the clutch pedal pushed in, because that's the only time it spins.

Bearing noise with the clutch pedal out in neutral is caused by the mainshaft bearings. Typically the inboard bearing is the culprit, but the outboard bearing can occasionally cause some noise.

Solution: Open the trans case and replace the inboard mainshaft bearing (also called the "input shaft bearing") and the main seal behind it. Do it before the bearing fails completely and damages the mainshaft and the case. Check the outboard bearing while you're in there and replace if it is rough or noisy.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 04:14 AM
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i gots to change that in my ys1 transmission. its not to costly of a project. about 90 bucks for the part. and i can get it done for 150 bucks or so. its a small price to pay when you can double the life of your transmission.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 05:22 AM
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i gots to change that in my ys1 transmission. its not to costly of a project. about 90 bucks for the part. and i can get it done for 150 bucks or so. its a small price to pay when you can double the life of your transmission.
An input shaft bearing is $36 or less and the main seal is $6.xx. You'll need 3 quarts of MTF at $7ish per quart. That's a grand total of $63 in parts for the entire job provided that nothing else is needed.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 05:55 AM
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wow, where can i find prices like that? i've looked, and the best i can find is 45 for the bearing and 45 for the seal kit. you're in pittsburg, can you fix my transmission if i brought it to you? damn, me and my thread jacking, lol sorry!
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 06:03 AM
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Honda Parts Unlimited. I just bought the bearing for $18.77 and the seal for $4.20, along with some other stuff. You will also have to pay shipping, so it is best to figure out everything you might want to order at one time so you are only paying one shipping charge.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 07:11 AM
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now, thats for a d series trans correct? i went to syncrotech and they emailed me a quote of 90 for both, plus shipping. mine isn't for a d series though, its for a ys1 (b16) trans.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by jhammond_82
wow, where can i find prices like that?
Any Honda or Acura dealership.

The correct bearing and correct main seal will depend on the transmission model, but I haven't seen an OEM inboard mainshaft bearing that listed for more than $36.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 10:58 AM
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Sorry about that, yes the prices I gave you are from a D series transmission.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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An input shaft bearing is $36 or less and the main seal is $6.xx. You'll need 3 quarts of MTF at $7ish per quart. That's a grand total of $63 in parts for the entire job provided that nothing else is needed.
well i just pulled my engine out so the oil is brand new, would it be easy enough to do i know about hondas just not a whole lot havent ever taken apart a tranny but pulled a engine out
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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Cable d series trannys are cheap. A dime a dozen.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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Take it apart just to see if you can do it. I've never been that deep into a Honda, either, but I'd try before I paid someone to do it for me.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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ya i might give it a shot and keep my out for a si tranny, im not driving it right now so its not a big deal
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jhammond_82
now, thats for a d series trans correct? i went to syncrotech and they emailed me a quote of 90 for both, plus shipping. mine isn't for a d series though, its for a ys1 (b16) trans.
The YS1 takes a 91002-PS1-003 bearing, list price $36.33. The main seal is 91216-PH8-005 @ $6.33.

The Si D-series transmission takes a slightly smaller 91002-PS0-003. It's $24.72 for an NTN bearing from Honda.

The non-Si D-series trans takes a smaller bearing yet, 91002-PHR-003 @ $22.48.

Both Si and non-Si D-series transmissions take the same main seal, 91216-PL3-005 @ $6.85.

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Cable d series trannys are cheap. A dime a dozen.
Not anymore.

Especially good Si transmissions.

You used to be able to pick them up left and right for $150. Now you have to hunt for one, pay up a good amount, and hope it doesn't have major problems.

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well i just pulled my engine out so the oil is brand new, would it be easy enough to do i know about hondas just not a whole lot havent ever taken apart a tranny but pulled a engine out
If you can pull an engine, you can replace an input shaft bearing. There are several write-ups on this procedure floating around the internet. I'd suggest buying a Helm factory service manual if you don't already have one; they thoroughly cover torque order and specs, and disassembly/reassembly procedures.
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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sounds like i did the same thing, i replaced the throw out bearing first, looks like i need to replace the input shaft bearing before my h22 lsd tranny is destroyed
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awesome TARGA!! now i have a part number to go with. maybe i'll try this at home too. thanks alot!!
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Targa250R

If you can pull an engine, you can replace an input shaft bearing. There are several write-ups on this procedure floating around the internet. I'd suggest buying a Helm factory service manual if you don't already have one; they thoroughly cover torque order and specs, and disassembly/reassembly procedures.
the helms manual was the first thing i bought for my car lol its my bible
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 08:14 AM
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where should i buy these at
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 08:27 AM
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A dealer.
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 08:55 AM
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you know if the online honda parts store sell them
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 10:53 AM
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Of course.

Check on the shipping first though. You may or may not be saving money.
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