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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 10:07 PM
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Default Accord Type R? Accord SIR?

Hi, as somebody wrote before: stupid question: is there a Accord Type-R?or an Accord SIR? Whats the diference to the EX? Does anybody know where can I get info on Type R Accord and SIR Accord? Thanks in advance.
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 11:52 PM
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you really would be surprised what you can find with google.com LOL
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 12:01 AM
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Good ol wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_T...pe_R.2F_Euro-R
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 03:25 AM
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accord type r are the euro R 98 accord with a h22 type s motor. 94-95 sir are the edm and jdm models with h22 in them. 96-97 sir have the f20b. they also have other options.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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f20b ftw
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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the ATR(accord typeR) has a totaly different body from the 5th gen US accords.
the Sir and the US accord parts are, for the most part interchangable
They made them in sedans, CD6
and coupes, CD8
both of those have the h22 with about 200hp
the ATR also had the h22 but at 220hp
the regular accords in Japan had the f20b
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sfcd5
the ATR(accord typeR) has a totaly different body from the 5th gen US accords.
Really?
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by erk89
Really?
Yes really.................

I don't see anything that remotely resembles a USDM 5th gen Accord in the above images. It looks like a stretched Civic chassis an Acura front end and 6th gen Euro rear end too me!
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 07:51 PM
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if it doesnt bolt on directly(minus very light mods)
then i would consider that as different.
none of the body can really be swaped over easily
so yes, i would say its different
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 09:04 PM
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So, non of this two fellas were sold in the USA? I have seen some Accord pics with the SIR emblem, if not imported they should be just emblems added to a normal accord...right?

Quite interesting....Thanks all for the info...
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 09:08 PM
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There are no SIR's that were sold from Honda in America.

There were no ATR's that were sold from Honda in America.

The only Type R to have ever been sold here was the ITR.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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I wonder now if an Accord EX (Like my Vteco) can be swaped to a Type R or SIR...on apparence at least and of course with all limitations...I can see on the specifications chart mechanical diferences such DOCH, vented disc brakes with twin pistons, the tranny, plus the Recaro Seats and Momo steering...
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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not the ATR, but you can with the Sir
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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ive also read on a few websites that the 94-95 sir where built in the states and then shiped to europe and japan

maybe someone has read this also??

probably some BS scince it doesnt seem pratical...

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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 06:32 PM
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not sure about that, but it would make sense
cause the US plants already have the h22 sitting around from the prelude
and the body is would be the same, even the RHD too,
because, im pretty sure that the US plants made the accords for Canada as well.

dam if that were true...WHY COULDNT WE GET THE H22 IN OUR ACCORDS!!!!
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 09:30 PM
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Well I will search more info on the SIR...it could be interesting a swap like this..
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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Buy one over here and ship it over! they only sell for the equivalent of $2-$3000 US!
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 05:52 AM
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Default Re: Accord Type R? Accord SIR?

Originally Posted by sfcd5
WHY COULDNT WE GET THE H22 IN OUR ACCORDS!!!!
i've always wonderd the same thing...
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Rod VTEC
Well I will search more info on the SIR...it could be interesting a swap like this..
alot of people have done this swap, just google it

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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Rustynuts
Buy one over here and ship it over! they only sell for the equivalent of $2-$3000 US!
the thing is most of us would do this if it wasnt for the fact that
shipping is expensive, and getting it registered street legal will take time and money.
for some just doing the swap is just easier.

but Canada on the other hand might be a bit easier, and if
you live close enough you can just drive there and pick it up
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sfcd5
the thing is most of us would do this if it wasnt for the fact that
shipping is expensive, and getting it registered street legal will take time and money.
for some just doing the swap is just easier.

but Canada on the other hand might be a bit easier, and if
you live close enough you can just drive there and pick it up
It is a bit easier here. But we still don't have any true SiR or Euro-R Accords here in Canada, yet! There is an import restriction here but not as controlling as the states.

Originally Posted by Transport Canada - [url
www.tc.gc.ca]The[/url] Motor Vehicle Safety Act and Regulations require that all vehicles imported into Canada comply, at the time of importation, with the Canada Motor Vehicle Safety Standards in effect on the date the vehicle was manufactured. Vehicles manufactured for sale in countries other than Canada and the United States do not comply with the requirements of the Canada Motor Vehicle Safety Act, CANNOT be altered to comply and CANNOT be imported into Canada. The only exceptions to this rule are vehicles fifteen (15) years old or older as determined by the month and year in which the vehicle was manufactured
Now if the vehicle is certified and passes US/Canadian safety and transport specs. It can be imported earlier than 15 years.

Originally Posted by Transport Canada
Vehicles acquired in foreign countries other than the U.S. and designed, built, tested and certified to meet either all applicable Canada Motor Vehicle Safety Standards or all applicable United States Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards and bearing a statement of compliance label affixed by the original manufacturer, as required by the Regulations, may be eligible for importation into Canada provided the vehicle has not been altered and the certification from the original manufacturer is maintained, which may be subject to verification at the time of importation. A vehicle imported under these conditions will be subject to the Registrar of Imported Vehicles program which may be accessed at the following web site: http://www.riv.ca.

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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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The SIR's were built in Maryland and shipped to Japan.
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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sure you're not thinking of marysville Ohio. i do believe reading that somewhere..... ill try to find it...
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 09:05 PM
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so i'm not crazy lol

why couldnt they just sell the sir here to...rhd and evrything
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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 07:30 AM
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The SiR's were built right next to yours and mine in the Ohio plant. Shitty that we can't get our hands on them. As for just selling the SiR here, everything from emissions to safety would have to be ditched and brought to US specs, hence why a $2-3000 Accord in Japan turns into a $10-13,000 project to get it legalized in the US.

Just be happy with what we got, if you want, swap an H22 and call it a day. Bout as close to a JDM SiR you're gonna get without dropping serious dime.
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