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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 09:27 AM
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Hey, I'm new to imports. I'm just wondering what everyone elses set-up is for a high HP all motor B16 or B18.
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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look in the all motor dyno thread. most users post their setups.
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 09:45 PM
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its easier/cheaper to get higher hp out of 1.8 and 2.0l setups...
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by K.E.G.
Hey, I'm new to imports. I'm just wondering what everyone elses set-up is for a high HP all motor B16 or B18.
i run a b16 in my acura and theres a lot of power
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 08:01 PM
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I'm building an LS Vtec right now and the projected numbers are putting me over 220WHP on an all motor build with out all the bolt on goodies being thrown in the picture yet.
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 93 gsr
i run a b16 in my acura and theres a lot of power
So you downgraded?
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 08:33 PM
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So you downgraded?
He only down graded if he had better than the B18A/B motor at the start.
Lot of integra have the NON VTEC B18's from the factory. I would of done the LS VTEC build and saved a buck. Plus the bonus MORE POWER.
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by K.E.G.
Hey, I'm new to imports. I'm just wondering what everyone elses set-up is for a high HP all motor B16 or B18.
What car is the motor going into and you can't forget the OBD Year it all plays a difference on the build.
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by shawn8772
I'm building an LS Vtec right now and the projected numbers are putting me over 220WHP on an all motor build with out all the bolt on goodies being thrown in the picture yet.
What does this 220 whp build consist of? What do you expect the total output will be with the bolt ons?
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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im using an b18a block w/ b16a head the major parts are to include-
golden eagle vtec kit/h-beam rods, 11-1 CP pistons,ARP head studs/rod bolts.
bolt ons wil include MSD ignition/coil/cap hytecheaders, skunk 2 pro series intake manifold, password JDM CF intake w/dry filtrer and a test pipe w/ custom exhaust.
It'll all be controled by a chrome tuned ECU. Havn't decided on cams or springs yet. check out the pics of my build they should be posted in the next few days.
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by shawn8772
im using an b18a block w/ b16a head the major parts are to include-
golden eagle vtec kit/h-beam rods, 11-1 CP pistons,ARP head studs/rod bolts.
bolt ons wil include MSD ignition/coil/cap hytecheaders, skunk 2 pro series intake manifold, password JDM CF intake w/dry filtrer and a test pipe w/ custom exhaust.
It'll all be controled by a chrome tuned ECU. Havn't decided on cams or springs yet. check out the pics of my build they should be posted in the next few days.
How did you estimate 220 whp without cam choice yet? Are you planning on sticking with stock stroke and bore? If so, I doubt you'll make 220 whp. IMO, the msd setup is a waste of money, use that cash and save up for some head work.
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 06:56 PM
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compression's not there and the MSD is going to give you headaches, the whale ***** is a ripoff and the exhaust needs to be 3"(or so all the kiddies say)
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ruffrhyder
How did you estimate 220 whp without cam choice yet? Are you planning on sticking with stock stroke and bore? If so, I doubt you'll make 220 whp. IMO, the msd setup is a waste of money, use that cash and save up for some head work.
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How the hell are you projecting 220whp?
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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How the hell are you projecting 220whp?
He must have gone off what the manufacturers advertised gains are,
i.e.
S2 IM 10% h.p. gain
whale ***** intake 15% h.p. gain
MSD coil 5% h.p. gain
header 15% h.p. gain

That adds up to 220 whp right?
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 02:12 PM
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What car is the motor going into and you can't forget the OBD Year it all plays a difference on the build.
1991 CRX Si
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by shawn8772
I'm building an LS Vtec right now and the projected numbers are putting me over 220WHP on an all motor build with out all the bolt on goodies being thrown in the picture yet.

This is EXACTLY what im referring to when i say e-building.
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 12:02 AM
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I doubt it will be WHP, like he said you havnt even picked out cams yet, id look at ur numbers again
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Conan the Destroyer
This is EXACTLY what im referring to when i say e-building.
It's funny how he hasn't replied since people started calling him out on his e-build
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 12:37 PM
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havn't been online to reply. To all the comments my motor is being built at street performance in VA. I have a ported b16 head and im going to be runing the ITR cams for the stronger v tec lobe. My stroke is increased by the eagle h beam rods and even more with the domed hicomp pistons. Ive looked to boost as an option for more power but i cant run more than 5 psi with the all ready high compression. Im basing my HP off a simular build all ready at the shop making more power.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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so you can increase stroke by getting longer rods?? interesting. good thing a shop is building your motor rather then yourself. A little suggestion, decide what you want to do, all motor, or boost. The two really don't mix well.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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Super charge the turbo charger don't just twin charge, put a blower on the intake side of the T66.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by shawn8772
im going to be runing the ITR cams for the stronger v tec lobe.

Goodluck with that! You might see 220 BHP with ITR's and your list of parts.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by shawn8772
havn't been online to reply. To all the comments my motor is being built at street performance in va. I have a ported b16 head and im going to be runing the itr cams for the stronger v tec lobe. My stroke is increased by the eagle h beam rods and even more with the domed hicomp pistons. Ive looked to boost as an option for more power but i cant run more than 5 psi with the all ready high compression. Im basing my hp off a simular build all ready at the shop making more power.
lol.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by shawn8772
havn't been online to reply. To all the comments my motor is being built at street performance in VA. I have a ported b16 head and im going to be runing the ITR cams for the stronger v tec lobe. My stroke is increased by the eagle h beam rods and even more with the domed hicomp pistons. Ive looked to boost as an option for more power but i cant run more than 5 psi with the all ready high compression. Im basing my HP off a simular build all ready at the shop making more power.

I hope you realize you're in the all motor forum....it's not the place to try and BS people. ITR cams are hardly the choice for a "projected" 220whp build. Explain to us how your Eagle rods increased your stroke? better yet, explain how you also increased it with domed hi-comp pistons? You say you can't run more than 5 psi with the "already high compression" ...do you call 11:1 compression high? There is no way a similar build at the shop is making more power than the projected 220whp, unless someone is on some serious drugs or is actually running something larger than a b18.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by shawn8772
havn't been online to reply. To all the comments my motor is being built at street performance in VA. I have a ported b16 head and im going to be runing the ITR cams for the stronger v tec lobe. My stroke is increased by the eagle h beam rods and even more with the domed hicomp pistons. Ive looked to boost as an option for more power but i cant run more than 5 psi with the all ready high compression. Im basing my HP off a simular build all ready at the shop making more power.
Note to self, "H-Beam rods = more stroke"
I doubt that similar build is making 220whp with ITR cams in an NA build.
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