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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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I'm doing a gsr rebuild, GSR crank, Eagle rods, bore over, 81.50 CP 12.5:1, Blox A's, type r manifold. Gonna run a 0.045" headgasket to bring the compression down to 11.9, it's gonna be on 91 octane. Looking to make 220ish and still be streetable. Trying to leave some headrooom for later, when the car will be less of a streetcar. At that point I can replace the headgasket with a thinner one, and do some headwork. Looking for any new ideas or critiques, all are welcome.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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I'd leave it at 12.5:1 compression and go with blox C's. 220 will come easy. See how far you can push 91 Oct.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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i do not think that blox As will support that kind of HP with 1800ish ccs. by blox C i think he meant blox HSL and i would second that notion.

why 81.5? leaving room for another rebuild? you can do 82.

look to CCcylinder heads for headwork. he is local to you.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 07:39 PM
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Kinda scared to go that high, 12.2 would be optional, but I'll settle for 11.9. I'm not sure exactly what cams are in it, it's actually a customer's motor. I'm gonna take some measurements tomorrow.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 07:41 PM
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Headwork isn't really in his budget for right now, its a fresh portflow valve job.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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Tony I definitely wouldn't do the Type A's.

They are a pretty basic cam. With that compression i would look into the Bs or even better the HSLs if your customer is on a budget. I think skunk pro1s would be ideal, but it all boils down to what the customer wants to spend haha.

Definitely leave it at 81.5 though.

What header and throttle body are they using ?
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 07:46 PM
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in that case man, just build it with what he gives you, properly, and make no promises on power output.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 09:06 PM
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I'm not really sure what cams are in it, all he remembers is that they're Blox. I'm gonna mic them tomorrow. Hopefully they are B's, I did a motor a few years back with them and it did very well. It's on a Jasma 4-1 stock t.b. for now but looking for a 70 and matchport the I.M.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 11:20 PM
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jasma is just japanese emissions. its the equivalent of a dc sports 4-2-1. just a simple, emissions passing header. there is NO WAY it will make 220hp with that header and blox As. more like 175. like i said.... just put it together properly and dont worry about numbers. sounds to me like as long as it puts the kid into the seat a little he will be happy.
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 03:33 AM
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I've always been of the opinion to go 81.5, in which case you at least have .020" to work with in the future. I also agree anything in the DD/mild street should stay below 12.0 esp. on 91. Little more cam would be nice though.
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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I believe they are Blox B's, he's gonna grab the boxes they came in to double check. He remembers that they were skunk 2 copies.
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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Maybe leave the clearances a little loose say 0.0018" on the mains and rods. Maybe leave about 1/2 thou of additional ring gap and 1/4" additional gap on PW.

Given that this a GSR head, you can probably get away with running a OEM one.

Has the manifold been ported? because that can make for some nice gains.

220whp on a 1.8L using 91 is going to be a challenge.
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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Default Re: Rebuilding a streetable gsr

Originally Posted by Conan the Destroyer
i do not think that blox As will support that kind of HP with 1800ish ccs. by blox C i think he meant blox HSL and i would second that notion.

why 81.5? leaving room for another rebuild? you can do 82.

look to CCcylinder heads for headwork. he is local to you.

81.5 is safer to run than 82 .. that is pushing the limit to cracked sleeves
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 02:02 PM
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Bad news, just found out they're Blox A's. How much will these effect compression as opposed to some blox B's. Also do Blox B's require aftermarket valve train?
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Garcia-Racing
Bad news, just found out they're Blox A's. How much will these effect compression as opposed to some blox B's. Also do Blox B's require aftermarket valve train?
Bad news not really, I run the Blox As with 11.5 81.5 mm. The car makes ~200 whp and runs 12s on 22"s.

Yes, Blox Bs require aftermarket VT.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 10:02 PM
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Nice, thats good news.
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