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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 04:21 PM
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Default My dyno results.

Ok here in vegas my friend has a dyno day Over at "forcefed". And here are my results on one pull.

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91 civic si
b16a
s1 tranny
short ram intake
rsr header (wrapped)
Stock 1.5'' exhaust which has gutted cat, gutted resonator and no muffler
gsr cams
stage 3 6 puck clutch
timing 18*
obd-0
pr3 virgin ecu
No tuning
Also car is running rich. (i used to get 30mpg, now i get about 25)

Tell me what you think.


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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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You basically have a stock set-up.

If you want more power chip your Pr3, blox A or s2s1 cams, supertech VT, 2.5" minimum exhaust, and get a tune.
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mar778c
You basically have a stock set-up.

If you want more power chip your Pr3, blox A or s2s1 cams, supertech VT, 2.5" minimum exhaust, and get a tune.
Yes i know im not trying to go all out na but what just getting some feedback as to does the power look about right for what i have. I was reading other peoples threads and there were all getting 90 wheel hp with there stock b16a.
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 04:38 PM
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Default Re: My dyno results.

your graph looks about right for a stock b16a except for the fact that the numbers aren't SAE corrected. They would look better if you follow mar778c's advice.
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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Default Re: My dyno results.

2.5" exhaust and a tune and you will find plenty more power....and a 3"intake too

Keep her safe
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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Exhaust and even an SAFC. You should be able to pull atleast 10-15whp from that alone.
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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Default Re: My dyno results.

Originally Posted by traxxasx
Yes i know im not trying to go all out na but what just getting some feedback as to does the power look about right for what i have. I was reading other peoples threads and there were all getting 90 wheel hp with there stock b16a.
My B16 with a 2.5" intake and 2.5"header back exhaust (Kteller) made 155/115tq (stock B16map) whp on a dyno jet where my C5 made 159/124tq whp stock (175/132tq whp with similar mods) ....

My freak numbers surprised all in attendance (especially me)

I would think 125-130whp is about average for a B16 in decent shape...USDMs are weaker and dyno 5-10whp less on avg compared to similar JDM motors IMO
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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Lil low numbers if you ask me... even with a 1.5" exhaust pipe. The GSR cams are wrong for the B16 and you can see the belly after it picks up at 5700rpm or so ... you prolly have a knock sensor or O2 sensor CEL too as it could be pulling timing advance and running rich, respectively.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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it'd at least get it tune, even if it's not with a hondata. it'll give you a lot more power than what you made. GL tho on your future mods and plans.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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he only did 1 dyno pull?

all motor cars make the most power on the 2nd or 3rd dyno pull from oil getting thinner.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 06:31 PM
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shouldnt the motor be at operating temp even on the first pull[oil heated up]
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 07:24 PM
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Default Re: My dyno results.

With the hundreds of NA cars that have been on my dyno, 99% of the time, the car makes more power on the second run than the first run.

hot oil = thinner oil = less friction
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 07:41 PM
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Default Re: My dyno results.

Originally Posted by turbociv910
With the hundreds of NA cars that have been on my dyno, 99% of the time, the car makes more power on the second run than the first run.

hot oil = thinner oil = less friction
Hm i will take that into consideration and try to get him to let me get a couple pulls in a row.
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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im suprised at 137 to the tire that it make 100 ft lbs. seems like they usually make about 97-98 when they are in the mid 130s....

when you go back, just unhook your exhaust from the header and yank it out of the way. i bet you gain 5-8whp.
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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Conan the Destroyer
im suprised at 137 to the tire that it make 100 ft lbs. seems like they usually make about 97-98 when they are in the mid 130s....
That's because the numbers he's showing are uncorrected.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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Default Re: My dyno results.

Ok just got back from the dyno i ran open headers and use my home made velocity stack out of a lamp LOL! Here are the results. A before and after from last weeks dyno.


Last weeks dyno



Todays dyno.


As you can see im right at about 150whp. I gained 12hp and 6 torque. My power band and torque is more consitant. On my old chart you can see my peak torque was at 5,500 and from there went down. On my new chart it held up and was consitant all the way to 7,600.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CHEETAH
Lil low numbers if you ask me... even with a 1.5" exhaust pipe. The GSR cams are wrong for the B16 and you can see the belly after it picks up at 5700rpm or so ... you prolly have a knock sensor or O2 sensor CEL too as it could be pulling timing advance and running rich, respectively.
i completely disagree with your cam statement. OBD0 B16 cams were the worst cams that honda made for any bseries motor. GSR cams are a great upgrade for that motor. you can clearly see it in the peak HP results. ignorance must be a bliss for you.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 04:00 AM
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Default Re: My dyno results.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpZaAN5nzIk
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 08:25 AM
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i dont know why people dyno their cars with open headers? yes, it gives you more hp, but why...you're not gonna run open headers on the road. is it so you can think you have those hp but really when you're on the streets you dont have that much hp...anyways just my 2 cents.

good numbers tho...for a b16
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 08:45 AM
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i guesse they find it nice to see how much they are lossing
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 11:40 AM
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Default Re: My dyno results.

I dont street race, and i run open header on the track.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 12:18 PM
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wow.. I am glad I didnt get a b16... whats the graph look like BELOW 5500? {edit} I saw the 2nd graph... }

no offense... b18a powa...FTW!
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DazeMS
wow.. I am glad I didnt get a b16... whats the graph look like BELOW 5500? {edit} I saw the 2nd graph... }

no offense... b18a powa...FTW!
Lol thats funny i bought a 1991 ef si with the b16 for 1600 and i fixed her all up, so in my eyes its a good deal.

Also i walk on b18's all day long. Im making more power than Alot of gsr engine around here.

I make more power than my friends b18 which has fullu built head/ valves, springs, retainers, stage 3 cams, ect. I make 16WHP more than him and im not even tuned.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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Something is seriously wrong with the 1.8's in your area.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by traxxasx
Lol thats funny i bought a 1991 ef si with the b16 for 1600 and i fixed her all up, so in my eyes its a good deal.

Also i walk on b18's all day long. Im making more power than Alot of gsr engine around here.

I make more power than my friends b18 which has fullu built head/ valves, springs, retainers, stage 3 cams, ect. I make 16WHP more than him and im not even tuned.
so you are talking bout b18c1s? they should have more hp than you stock...and if you still make more power than them with all his mods then, who ever is tuning your rides down there sucks...not hating on your setup but just saying the same thing as combustion contraption.
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