h22a IM selection for boost
so i pretty much have my turbo kit pieced together, and im kinda stuck on IM selection.
im mainly stuck between skunk2 and a euro-r, ive seen the testing between these 2 done on a na motor. but that really doesnt help me out a whole lot.
has there been testing done between these 2 manifolds? if so can you show me a link? people who can chime in with first hand experience would be great? i dont want to hear what the word on the street is, mainly just first hand experience.
Im just looking at these 2 because price wise there pretty close to each other. GE and magnus are out of my price range so i we can keep the topic on these 2 manifolds that would be great thanks.
im mainly stuck between skunk2 and a euro-r, ive seen the testing between these 2 done on a na motor. but that really doesnt help me out a whole lot.
has there been testing done between these 2 manifolds? if so can you show me a link? people who can chime in with first hand experience would be great? i dont want to hear what the word on the street is, mainly just first hand experience.
Im just looking at these 2 because price wise there pretty close to each other. GE and magnus are out of my price range so i we can keep the topic on these 2 manifolds that would be great thanks.
Basicly its going to be a 60trim turbo with a .73 A/R housing and a stage 3 turbine wheel - For now.
Looking for a safe 300.
Picking up a CD H block having it relined with iron liners and going to run 9.5-10.1 boosted with probably a 35r in the future. Some mild head work and probably some spec'd cams from Bisi.
Not looking for a power goal but high 10's with 25" slicks.
Basically its a toss up between the V2 Skunk 2 manifold and Euro R.
The stock manifold is "good" and all but plenum size is simply to small and become restrictive for future plans. So might as well do it now and enjoy the small gains on low boost...
I'm sure gains at 7-10psi is going to be nominal, but 10-1 and 20psi on E85, there should definitely be gains in one or the other...
Car eventually won't be a DD, but will have be in full street trim, no stripping or anything like that.
-Jerod
Looking for a safe 300.
Picking up a CD H block having it relined with iron liners and going to run 9.5-10.1 boosted with probably a 35r in the future. Some mild head work and probably some spec'd cams from Bisi.
Not looking for a power goal but high 10's with 25" slicks.
Basically its a toss up between the V2 Skunk 2 manifold and Euro R.
The stock manifold is "good" and all but plenum size is simply to small and become restrictive for future plans. So might as well do it now and enjoy the small gains on low boost...
I'm sure gains at 7-10psi is going to be nominal, but 10-1 and 20psi on E85, there should definitely be gains in one or the other...
Car eventually won't be a DD, but will have be in full street trim, no stripping or anything like that.
-Jerod
You've got an H22, not a D15. You don't need a long list of modifications with a 87 x 90.7 high revving motor.
IMO you're wasting your money buying an IM and looking into cams if all you are aiming for is a high 10.
IMO you're wasting your money buying an IM and looking into cams if all you are aiming for is a high 10.
Alright, high 10's on 225/40 street tires... Little more challenging?
I'm sorry but the stock intake manifold design seems to be **** poor, good for N/A and low end torque but to me a larger plenum and shorter or longer (thats were I'm a noob) would be helpful.
To me increasing VE of an engine makes making the power easier, meaning less boost and less timing is needed for the same output.. Meaning less stress on the rods/bearings/rings. If I set a goal of 300whp on stock internals, have a good setup increasing the H's VE, that would mean it would take less boost to reach that 300whp mark. Meaning the ringlands would thank me.
Jerod
I'm sorry but the stock intake manifold design seems to be **** poor, good for N/A and low end torque but to me a larger plenum and shorter or longer (thats were I'm a noob) would be helpful.
To me increasing VE of an engine makes making the power easier, meaning less boost and less timing is needed for the same output.. Meaning less stress on the rods/bearings/rings. If I set a goal of 300whp on stock internals, have a good setup increasing the H's VE, that would mean it would take less boost to reach that 300whp mark. Meaning the ringlands would thank me.
Jerod
10's on street tires ain't gonna happen
a BIG MAYBE with drag radials but no way on straight up street tires
the power to run 10's can't hold enough traction with street tires end of story on that IMHO
a BIG MAYBE with drag radials but no way on straight up street tires
the power to run 10's can't hold enough traction with street tires end of story on that IMHO
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Look I know its pretty hard seeing 10's on street tires, but seriously on this forum you either have to ask a insanely stupid ****ing question or ask a qjuestion about the played out and boring B series setup to get a decent answer...
I hear the same thing, keep the stock manifold, I'm sure its capable of 500+ whp, but at boost? Could I pick up a S2 mani and make 300 whp on 7psi of boost and less timing, rather than run 9psi and more timing on the stock manifold?
No one seems to have a good answer, I'm all about engine VE, less stress on things.
-Jerod
Look I know its pretty hard seeing 10's on street tires, but seriously on this forum you either have to ask a insanely stupid ****ing question or ask a qjuestion about the played out and boring B series setup to get a decent answer...
I hear the same thing, keep the stock manifold, I'm sure its capable of 500+ whp, but at boost? Could I pick up a S2 mani and make 300 whp on 7psi of boost and less timing, rather than run 9psi and more timing on the stock manifold?
No one seems to have a good answer, I'm all about engine VE, less stress on things.
-Jerod
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