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C16, Q16, C12, E85...13.5:1 CR. For All motor, what is the better option?

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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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Default C16, Q16, C12, E85...13.5:1 CR. For All motor, what is the better option?

i have a 86mm bore 13.5 comp ratio(serie B). What is the better for my specs. For personal experience,thanks.
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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c12 or c16
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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Default re: C16, Q16, C12, E85...13.5:1 CR. For All motor, what is the better option?

C12 is an ok choice.

C16 is a TERRIBLE fuel for an all motor application.
Its per molecule weight is heavy and is meant for a forced induction build.

C14+, Q16 ( an oxygenated fuel), ms109 or E85 would be good choices.

Don't be scared to talk to the local VP rep, they are very helpful
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 07:28 PM
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^ good advice.
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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Default re: C16, Q16, C12, E85...13.5:1 CR. For All motor, what is the better option?

Originally Posted by 2fastGSR
C12 is an ok choice.

C16 is a TERRIBLE fuel for an all motor application.
Its per molecule weight is heavy and is meant for a forced induction build.

C14+, Q16 ( an oxygenated fuel), ms109 or E85 would be good choices.

Don't be scared to talk to the local VP rep, they are very helpful
what he said^
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Default re: C16, Q16, C12, E85...13.5:1 CR. For All motor, what is the better option?

Originally Posted by 2fastGSR
C12 is an ok choice.

C16 is a TERRIBLE fuel for an all motor application.
Its per molecule weight is heavy and is meant for a forced induction build.

C14+, Q16 ( an oxygenated fuel), ms109 or E85 would be good choices.

Don't be scared to talk to the local VP rep, they are very helpful
But don't be surprised if what you pay for and what you get is not the same.
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But don't be surprised if what you pay for and what you get is not the same.
WHAT ?!?
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Old Jun 9, 2020 | 11:45 PM
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WHAT ?!?
VP has been caught, more than once, labeling a barrel of fuel with an octane but the contents is a lower grade octane. I've seen photos of some of the miss labeled barrels.

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Default Re: C16, Q16, C12, E85...13.5:1 CR. For All motor, what is the better option?

If you have E85 available, use that over all the others. If you’re track only, go for M1 or M5. All the others are a waste of time.
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Old Jun 21, 2020 | 07:59 PM
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Default Re: C16, Q16, C12, E85...13.5:1 CR. For All motor, what is the better option?

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If you have E85 available, use that over all the others. If you’re track only, go for M1 or M5. All the others are a waste of time.
Interesting. I can't wait to hear the theory around this one.
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Old Jul 2, 2020 | 11:33 AM
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Default Re: C16, Q16, C12, E85...13.5:1 CR. For All motor, what is the better option?

Im my small experience that I have, I would go with the fuel that would allow the most spark timing without signs of detonation as this is where you will make power. This is ONLY if you dont care about MPG. You can run Nitro up to 60 degrees of timing in WOT, where as with gas you'll be around 28-32 degrees, but you only get like 8 miles per gallon. Haha. Depends on the application but I would go with what fuel allows the most spark timing.
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Old Jul 4, 2020 | 02:35 PM
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Default Re: C16, Q16, C12, E85...13.5:1 CR. For All motor, what is the better option?

Originally Posted by TheShodan
Interesting. I can't wait to hear the theory around this one.
E85 is cheap and will make as much power as any fuel he mentioned.
M1 or M5 will make more power than all. Not sure was confuses you.
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