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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 06:48 AM
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90 EF sedan sitting on fat fives with goodyear tires with good tread.

i commute into the LA area (Pasadena) everyday and its been raining recently and my car has been acting crazy on these wet freeways.

i can be going about 60-70mph and i will start fishtailing for no reason, pretty bad too. I've never had a car that cannot handle the rain what-so-ever. Im assuming that if my suspension is too bouncy then i cant grip the road properly or maybe tires going a little bald.

anyone from so cal that drives on the 210 specifically during this rain? Maybe having problems? Also i see a lot of sick DA's and DC 2's going 210west between 6-7am and im kinda curious if any of them are on this site. if you are then post i want to see if you have these problems too.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 06:59 AM
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I commute garden grove to fullerton (its not far but) and i fishtail SOMETIMES if i go to fast on freeway interchanges. on my old crx i used to fishtail all the time but that was cuz of my tires. how are your tires looking?
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mog
I commute garden grove to fullerton (its not far but) and i fishtail SOMETIMES if i go to fast on freeway interchanges. on my old crx i used to fishtail all the time but that was cuz of my tires. how are your tires looking?
they arent that bad, but the little notch indicator for the tire wear is almost flush with the tread...you know what i mean? i love these frickin tires i have had NO problems with them and they are wearing evenly despite being dropped.

weird thing is that the last time it rained, like a a few weeks ago, i WASNT drifting like this. i dunno i just wanted to see if anyone drives my stretch of road. particularly a milano red DA that is by far the cleanest DA i've ever seen.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 07:25 AM
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what kind of suspension setup? stiff springs? blown shocks? when was your last alignment?
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 07:29 AM
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what kind of suspension setup? stiff springs? blown shocks? when was your last alignment?
ebay adjustable coil overs all around. Monroe Sensatrac's just replaced on sunday. alignment is perfect, doesnt veer either way.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 07:30 AM
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"60-70mph"

Rule of thumb: ANY car can hydroplane at 50+.



SLOW DOWN!!!
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 07:31 AM
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dont go 60 or 70 when its wet maybe
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 07:32 AM
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"60-70mph"

Rule of thumb: ANY car can hydroplane at 50+.



SLOW DOWN!!!
dude thats not even fast on the freeway during rain and i dont need a safety lecture. besides, last time it rained this wasnt happening, this just started over the past few days.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 07:34 AM
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Never had any drifiting problems like that. I go to pasadena pretty often too because I go to school there.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 07:35 AM
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I dont understand why people here in so cal are scared of a little rain. try going to the mid west or new england somewhere and see how people are accustomed to it. if you arent used to driving in the rain the get the hell off the freeway.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 07:40 AM
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^^ Werd. New England weather will make anyone a better driver. I ran into people that freaked out about rain when I lived in both Texas and Nevada.

To the OP: I found that when driving in California, especially San Bern county, their roads don't seem to be too accustomed to rain (read: react differently). Whether I was on my motorcycle, or in either of my Hondas, traveling too fast make the car react differently. I don't know why, but it does. Like the advice given above, just slow it down a bit.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 07:43 AM
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I dont understand why people here in so cal are scared of a little rain. try going to the mid west or new england somewhere and see how people are accustomed to it. if you arent used to driving in the rain the get the hell off the freeway.
i live in chicago, dont need to explain my weather experience, i drive in the snow with azinies.... just drive slower under bad conditions
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 07:45 AM
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^^ Werd. New England weather will make anyone a better driver. I ran into people that freaked out about rain when I lived in both Texas and Nevada.

To the OP: I found that when driving in California, especially San Bern county, their roads don't seem to be too accustomed to rain (read: react differently). Whether I was on my motorcycle, or in either of my Hondas, traveling too fast make the car react differently. I don't know why, but it does. Like the advice given above, just slow it down a bit.
its just surprising to me a little bit, i've had a 91 ef hatch, 90 da coupe, now this 90 ef sedan and this is the only car that does this. and just recently too. good thing it doesnt rain very often here.

by the way, any advice on a leaky trunk? i have water pooled where my spare is, and its seeping through to my driverside back seat carpet :-( dont know how its traveling there but still it gets soaked, i had to cut out the padding from under the carpet to avoid mold.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 07:50 AM
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I dont understand why people here in so cal are scared of a little rain. try going to the mid west or new england somewhere and see how people are accustomed to it. if you arent used to driving in the rain the get the hell off the freeway.
Fine.
Keep going fast.
Is it really worth it to continue fishtailing? You might gain a slam into the median, into another car, or launch off an overpass. Where's the WIN?

It's not that people are 'afraid' to go fast in the rain, it's that people have common sense NOT to drive 70-80 in wet conditions. We don't get a lot of rain in So Cal so the oil int he road lifts when fresh rain falls. It makes it more slippery than the roads in rainy climates.

I know there are the asshats that drive 30 on the freeway... THAT slow is annoying. But 70~80? Does the 65mph law mean anything to you even in wet conditions?
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by stevew84
I dont understand why people here in so cal are scared of a little rain. try going to the mid west or new england somewhere and see how people are accustomed to it. if you arent used to driving in the rain the get the hell off the freeway.
HUUUUUUURRRRRRR......
It's California.... we don't get rain often.... we get dry spells for a while so oil and whatnot collects on the freeway, and when it rains for the first time in a while obviously the Freeway is far more slippery.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 07:59 AM
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Fine.
Keep going fast.
Is it really worth it to continue fishtailing? You might gain a slam into the median, into another car, or launch off an overpass. Where's the WIN?

It's not that people are 'afraid' to go fast in the rain, it's that people have common sense NOT to drive 70-80 in wet conditions. We don't get a lot of rain in So Cal so the oil int he road lifts when fresh rain falls. It makes it more slippery than the roads in rainy climates.

I know there are the asshats that drive 30 on the freeway... THAT slow is annoying. But 70~80? Does the 65mph law mean anything to you even in wet conditions?
new tires it is then....thank you safety patrol.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 08:14 AM
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new tires it is then....thank you safety patrol.
Why do you think new tires are going to help you?
You will be wasting your money.

Your comments make it seem that you think you are 'special' or something.
Rain is wet. Oil is slippery.
Slow Down solves your problem.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 08:19 AM
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just because it doesn't pull doesnt mean you dont need an alignment
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 08:22 AM
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just because it doesn't pull doesnt mean you dont need an alignment
i know i should get it aligned. Im putting on GC's all around and when i do that then ill get the alignment.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 08:28 AM
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leaky trunk.

try the tail light seals especially on a sedan over time they leak.

mine leaked like the trunk was open. put new tail light seals on and it stopped.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 08:31 AM
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Going that fast on wet road is very dangerous.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 09:16 AM
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leaky trunk.

try the tail light seals especially on a sedan over time they leak.

mine leaked like the trunk was open. put new tail light seals on and it stopped.
hmm ok im going to have to check that out.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 09:18 AM
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for the drifting, i'd say stiff springs + possible toe issues = sliding rear end. If tires have tread and they aren't dry rotted, they shouldn't be an issue.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 09:27 AM
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i drive the 210 in the rain all the time and i drive 80mph on ebay springs and stock shocks with no problem. maybe it could b ur tires
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 09:43 AM
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i drive the 210 in the rain all the time and i drive 80mph on ebay springs and stock shocks with no problem. maybe it could b ur tires
more than likely its the tires, im going to buy some new fronts this weekend.
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