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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 05:32 PM
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ok h-t im looking into gc+koni's for my hatchie. my only concern is that i keep reading on how the spring rate the gc bring are rather soft. im looking to slam my hatchie a lil more than 2 1/2 inches. id like my ride to be stiff but not to the point that a little bump on the road is gonna bump me off my seat(i had race omnis 1 pc b4)..

what spring rate would u guys reccomend? another question is, what are top hats? ive never heard of this. ive read they allow a better ride for a dummped ride is this true?

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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 05:38 PM
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 05:54 PM
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Default Re: another GC+koni concern..

Koni GC's don't come with a specific spring rate. When you order Koni-specific GC's, you specify what spring rates you want.

And don't pump a post after 5 minutes.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 05:58 PM
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Default Re: another GC+koni concern..

Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94
Koni GC's don't come with a specific spring rate. When you order Koni-specific GC's, you specify what spring rates you want.

And don't pump a post after 5 minutes.
o0o0 in that case in my situation, which would u reccomend.?


p.s it was six minutes
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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i guess no one likes newcomers 2 h-t (
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 11:18 PM
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Default Re: another GC+koni concern..

Originally Posted by Mr_Ek15
i guess no one likes newcomers 2 h-t (
or how bout you search, and read around on this site. this topic has been covered a thousand times.
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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 04:22 AM
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i have searched. i want reccomendations for the spring rate thats all. wise guy
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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 02:14 PM
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Default Re: another GC+koni concern..

wise guy?
there are recomendations all over this site. look in the slammed thread. if you searched you didn't do it very well.
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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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Default Re: another GC+koni concern..

Originally Posted by dcvt16
wise guy?
there are recomendations all over this site. look in the slammed thread. if you searched you didn't do it very well.
yea i guess i didnt. anyhow thanks for the info, its much appriciated. im tryn 2 have this car dropped already
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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Default Re: another GC+koni concern..

Originally Posted by Mr_Ek15
what spring rate would u guys reccomend?
550/300 front/rear

Stiff up front, to allow low ride height with less chance of bottoming out.

Soft(er) in the rear, to help preserve ride quality. You feel the rear rates more than the front.

Originally Posted by Mr_Ek15
another question is, what are top hats? ive never heard of this. ive read they allow a better ride for a dummped ride is this true?
Consider them, but they are not necessary. You can get almost the same increase in shock range from the "shock fork trick" up front. No need to consider them for the rear, there is adequate suspension range back there.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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[QUOTE=TunerN00b;37445899]550/300 front/rear

Stiff up front, to allow low ride height with less chance of bottoming out.

Soft(er) in the rear, to help preserve ride quality. You feel the rear rates more than the front.



Consider them, but they are not necessary. You can get almost the same increase in shock range from the "shock fork trick" up front. No need to consider them for the rear, there is adequate suspension range back there.


thanks for the information, uve been nothing but helpful man.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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wat if u were to put 550/550 on all corners?
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 06:25 PM
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^ im thinking all around would be real stiff like the racing omni's
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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Default Re: another GC+koni concern..

to me like it stiff..
on my old ej8 i had yellow neuspeed springs w/kyb agxs and it rode stiff
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 08:33 PM
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Default Re: another GC+koni concern..

bump for some info.
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 12:23 PM
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Default Re: another GC+koni concern..

Any1??
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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Default Re: another GC+koni concern..

Why do you keep bumping this thread?

You've provided no additional information. Obviously you aren't putting in any effort to research this yourself, or you'd at least have some new information or questions to share with us.

If you don't stop bumping this, I'm going to sent a request for it to be locked.

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Guidelines for creating topics in the Suspension forum:

6. No bumping or post whoring. If your topic isn't generating responses, then rephrase the question and include more information rather than simply posting a useless "bump." Post whoring will be dealt with accordingly.

Tips for having your questions answered quickly and thoroughly:

1. Remember to include any information relevant to your question - e.g., the vehicle you are working with (year, make, model, doors, trim level), your budget, the purpose for which you use your car, and/or your motivation for modification.

2. More background information almost always helps. For example: What suspension products have you had experience with in the past? If you're having a problem, when does it occur and what symptoms are evident?

5. Use the search function before asking any question. It is easy to use, thorough, and powerful. Here are some examples of topics that have been asked and answered here countless times:

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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 07:02 AM
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Default Re: another GC+koni concern..

The Koni's are a much superior shock compared to the Omni's and KYB's already mentioned in this thread. I just got rod of my KYB shocks GC 375/f 300/r suspension for a Koni/GC 375/f 450/r and the ride is so much better.

I believe the front could possibly go a little higher in spring rate (400#), but not much. The rear rate is perfect thus far. The setup responds quickly to small bumps like over railroad tracks, but the normal dips and bumps in roads the ride is very smooth and relaxing. My six month old baby still sleeps in my car during rides.

I have the extended top hats on all four corners, but I also autox my car. I have dropped my suspension to where maybe a finger can fit between the tire and fender. I have yet to bottom out. The top hats from GC also come with new polyurethane bump stops.

Koni and GC are in probably 50% of the threads in this forum. Please search for more answers.
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