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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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I looked in FAQ guides and didnt see anything to help me.

OK first of all i know I have a stage 2 clutch and i also have short shifter. I need to figure out what kind of tranny i have to see if its even suppose to match up to my motor.

MAINLY i have an issue getting into 4th gear ALOT! specificly at low rpm and mph. But even at higher rpm and mph it sometimes doesnt engage and sounds as if im grinding gears.

I heard checking tranny fluid might be issue, also my syncro could be off or something. Curious on if these are main causes or if its something else.

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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 02:23 PM
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 02:40 PM
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If it dosent go into 4th its you Syncro and you probally have no Syncro Spring either. If it grinds that its either your Gear or you Syncro. To tell what type of tranny you have Open you hood and look at the code by the engine #.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...8/101_0253.jpg

its the code the number under B16A right?
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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no thats the block number nothing to do with trans.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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So where do I look for the tranny code.

Anyone got a picture of one for me to refer to?
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 03:28 PM
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If you're running a cable clutch, you probably have an S1 or J1 transmission. If it has an LSD, it's probably a Y1. It could also be a YS1, though they aren't as common. The trans code will be printed on a gold or white sticker on the trans just to the left of the engine block stamp.

Either way, it doesn't matter what transmission you have, as it is likely bad. You could try changing the transmission fluid, as it seems as though you've never checked it or changed it. Use genuine Honda Manual Transmission Fluid; it can help smooth out notchy shifting. B-series transmissions take about 2.2-2.3 quarts, so you'll need 3 bottles. When you check or fill the fluid, it should be up to the level of the fill plug - to the point of running back out without the plug in place. Running the transmission low on fluid will destroy the mainshaft bearings and other internal parts, and cause noises and shifting issues.

Any number of things could be happening, from a broken shift fork to a worn synchronizer to contact between the shift linkage and exhaust (or some other part).

If it were a clutch or engine mount problem, you'd have the same symptoms in multiple gears or every gear.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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Alright i will check the fluid and fill it it its needed. Also I might take to shop and have them check out my transmission to see if anythings wrong.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 04:05 PM
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If you take it to a shop they will just tell you it needs to be rebuilt. I would agree, if it grinds then it is the synchro going out. Get it fixed before it starts tearing up the gears and the rebuild will cost even more. Either that or you could buy a used transmission, but that is a gamble, I have personally won and lost that one.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 04:06 PM
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If you were low on fluid it would probably grind in almost every gear through the shift, especially 5th.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 04:08 PM
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So i should repair or get new synchro? What do those usually run? And if every gear works besides 4th, can i just skip 4th?
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 04:21 PM
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You can just skip 4th, and you probably couldn't repair it. You could do it without the special tools but they make it so much easier, but even with them it is still difficult. Nothing you would want to attempt your first try on, if you don't want to take it to a shop/buy a new trans. Sorry, I am not sure what the synchros run for Hondas.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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Well i found http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda...3A1|240%3A1318

would this work?
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by EGHondalover88
Yes, they would work, but again, no offense, I think it is above your level to tear a trans apart. It is more difficult than an engine will ever be.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 04:36 PM
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Well i would buy the part and have a shop do the work. A shop will charge alot to buy part and labor.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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True, but it depends, a lot of shops make money by over charging for the part too. So some shops will still charge you for the part regardless or will "take off" some of the price of what they would have charged you for the part. Just depends on the shops and I am talking about the shops up near me by Chicago.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 04:45 PM
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yea well atleast i know where to go with this issue.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by EGHondalover88
Well i would buy the part and have a shop do the work. A shop will charge alot to buy part and labor.
Many shops won't install a customer's parts. You don't take your own eggs and bacon to a diner and tell them to fix your breakfast, so why do it at an automotive shop?

Frankly, your best bet would be to buy a Gearspeed rebuilt transmission and send yours back as a core.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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ugh man thats gonna be pricey! this car needs more work then i thought...
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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Also how do I tell if its cable or LSD tranny?
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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Well you are asking two different questions. Your car is a cable transmission, I know this from the picture you posted of the engine bay in your other thread. As far as LSD the only way to know is if you take out the axle and look in the transmission. If you see a bar going through then it is NON-LSD. If you can see through to the other side then it is LSD.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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oh ok kinda trying to learn alot of stuff here and its helping. What is a better transmission?
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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Also, I forgot to mention the transmission will either be Cable or Hydraulic. The hydraulic will have a Slave Cylinder where the clutch fork is rather than a cable attached to the clutch fork.

(Also I am pretty sure I got which is which for the LSD, LoL, I may have them switched around.)

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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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Try to Tighten your clutch cable its adjustable on the transmission and it might be loose when you swapped the clutch. Tighten up the cable a bit and see if that helps.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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Where is the cable located? What tool will be used to loosen or tighten?
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