Is it posible to make 500whp with stock sleeves and 92 gas?

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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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Default Is it posible to make 500whp with stock sleeves and 92 gas?

I have a turbo del sol, I made 390whp on 17lb and 92 gas on LS Vtec with stock B16 head and low compresion pistons. My goal is 500whp. Now I upgraded the head: Skunk 2 spring and retainers, BLOX Turbo cams, Victor X manifold with 68mm TB and 680cc injectors. runing GT32 turbo on top mount.

So haw much PSI I can go or haw much power I can make on that setup?
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 07:23 AM
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Just a little FYI...dont post questions like this in the Civic Forum. The last guy to comment epitomizes the types of responses you're going to get.

Anyway, you wont make that power with the turbo you have. It wont be efficient past 425whp period...let alone running pump gas
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 07:27 AM
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I build my motor like 3 years ego and I didnt have money for darton sleeves, but now I dont care if I blow it I'll sleeve another LS block.

I know alot of people that making 525whp on stock block and no problem but they running racing gas I think.

I thonk 450whp should be fine, I just wounder haw fur I can go with it, stock block and 680 injectors?
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 07:30 AM
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AHAHAH


To scared to ask on HMT ???
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 08:02 AM
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Nobady can answer that kind of questions in HMT...
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 08:20 AM
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it is possible.. but... . Man honestly I'd like to try it myself lol.. I've done 600+ on stock sleeves with race gas, but not pump lol.. But I have done a sleeved motor on pump at those power levels. I think as long as you can work your way up on the pump gas and NEVER detonate even a little bit you SHOULD be able to make that power on pump. But at those power levels it only take mild detonation to crack the sleeve so your tuner better be top notch. I don't know if you'd be able to reach those power levels with your turbo setup though without any detonation. You'd need a really good free flowing setup and properly prepared combustion chambers and pistons.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 08:47 AM
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whats the CR and bore size?

i highly doubt that your cyclinder pressures are going to allow you to make 500whp on 92 octane only. i guess if you run super rich (10-11afr) and you have a good ignition set-up you may reach it, but i think your set-up is going to be done at 450-475whp get more turbo also list more about your set-up
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:14 AM
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Eagle Rods, JE pistons 9:1, 81.5mm bore, OEM head gasket thikness, Skunk 2 springs and retainers, BLOX Turbo cams, Victor X with 68mm TB, No head work B16 with LS block with no griddle, stok ignition, four way catch can.... I think thats it, oh and 680cc precisions.
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This is before upgrades, on stock head vid.:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX5nMi0wRvA
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by vadimkag
Eagle Rods, JE pistons 9:1, 81.5mm bore, OEM head gasket thikness, Skunk 2 springs and retainers, BLOX Turbo cams, Victor X with 68mm TB, No head work B16 with LS block with no griddle, stok ignition, four way catch can.... I think thats it, oh and 680cc precisions.
you may hit your target number but it wont last to long
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:41 AM
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OK then I might go 450-470 just to be safe. Cool

I'll take some pictures of new setup it might help
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:46 AM
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400 Hp will still really shred and be fun on the street !!
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 11:07 AM
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just want to try it on the track...
I did last summer, it was suck
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 11:13 AM
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u wont come close to those power levels on those injectors u have
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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Will 750cc work?
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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why would you want that much power in a fwd car?
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 12:13 PM
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adiction... I don't know.
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Default Re: Is it posible to make 500whp with stock sleeves and 92 gas?

Sure, the engine can handle more power on stock sleeves BUT that turbo isn't going to get you there. You're pretty close to the limit on it already. If you make more than 425whp, consider yourself lucky. You WILL NEVER hit 500whp on that turbo. It doesn't matter if you run pump gas or race gas. If you want to make more power, you'll have to upgrade to a different turbo
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Default Re: Is it posible to make 500whp with stock sleeves and 92 gas?

Originally Posted by Schister66
Sure, the engine can handle more power on stock sleeves BUT that turbo isn't going to get you there. You're pretty close to the limit on it already. If you make more than 425whp, consider yourself lucky. You WILL NEVER hit 500whp on that turbo. It doesn't matter if you run pump gas or race gas. If you want to make more power, you'll have to upgrade to a different turbo
Agreed, and I still wouldn't want to push your motor the way its built past 425-450 whp on 92 especially.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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Sure, the engine can handle more power on stock sleeves BUT that turbo isn't going to get you there. You're pretty close to the limit on it already. If you make more than 425whp, consider yourself lucky. You WILL NEVER hit 500whp on that turbo. It doesn't matter if you run pump gas or race gas. If you want to make more power, you'll have to upgrade to a different turbo
Its been custom made for 500+whp, it has gt35 cold side.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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Here are some pictures I just took of my new setup...
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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injectors and turbo are too small for your goals
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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Stalin.
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Originally Posted by falcongsr
why would you want that much power in a fwd car?
i make 600+ on pump gas and its a blast to drive, the same guy that tuned my car is who tuned the car in this post, james is an amazing tuner and speed factory is one of the best shops around
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I have only 400whp and I cant explain haw fun it is...
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