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Old Aug 8, 2002 | 10:48 PM
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Default Stock ITR Intake Box vs. Comptech Icebox?

Anyone has a dyno comparison of these two? Searched all around, comptech only offers numbers of i/h/e with their ecu. 1/4 mile runs comparison would work too.

Has to be with same filter, foam or paper. Since foam could make 1-2hp over paper.

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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 12:08 AM
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The Comptech icebox runs an upgraded comptech foam filter. It also sucks in air with more ease behind your turning signal. The icebox itself prevents hydrolock 100%. It's a proven gain of horsepower and torque over your stock intake and there are really are no negative sides to it. Well, except a deeper tone to the engine.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 12:09 AM
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Oh yeah, Comptech claims 8 peak HP with 7 peak lbs. of torque with their exhaust and header system.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 01:09 AM
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The Comptech icebox runs an upgraded comptech foam filter. It also sucks in air with more ease behind your turning signal. The icebox itself prevents hydrolock 100%. It's a proven gain of horsepower and torque over your stock intake and there are really are no negative sides to it. Well, except a deeper tone to the engine.
Do you notice that the Comptech Icebox drones at around 3000ish RPM on highway speed? I didn't noticed that when I had the AEM CAI before.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 01:18 AM
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So which do you liek better project? The comptech or the AEM cai..cause right now i have the AEM but im thinkin about gettin the comptech for ***** and giggles
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 01:18 AM
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Oh yeah, Comptech claims 8 peak HP with 7 peak lbs. of torque with their exhaust and header system.
Yeah for sure, I say BS!!!!

No Intake in the world will produce that numbers on stock engine. I bet my turboed R 1-3 bhp is the maximum.

When you have enough money, then buy an Intake. I would safe the money for a real performance part.


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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 02:01 AM
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So which do you liek better project? The comptech or the AEM cai..cause right now i have the AEM but im thinkin about gettin the comptech for ***** and giggles
In terms of sound, Comptech gives a nice low growl below 6k RPM, but very audible afterwards. More so than AEM. AEM is higher pitch and gets loud earlier, but constantly to redline.

For power, Comptech is slightly preppier low and mid, but I think AEM wins up top after 6-7k. This is based on butt dyno. I will need to do more testing. Perhaps a dyno on the same car will tell the truth. Butt dynos are deceiving.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 02:57 AM
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Umm ive seen a lot of AEM CAI make at least 6 and many get 7whp from it...not 1-3
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 03:08 AM
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Have you realy seen it by yourself, testing out the stock air box and then switching to CAI on the same dyno day? I did it with a K&N kit. Yeah, zero hp added.

Same with a guy from Germany. Tested out his Tenzo Intake. ZERO hp added. Same dyno day with same dyno.

Anybody else testet before and after on the same day with the same car on the same dyno?
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 05:58 AM
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Comptech shows hp gain dyno with intake,header,exhaust,ecu so its not clear what makes the actual hp out of these 4. If Icebox made hp over stock, they would show the dyno comparison of stock vs comptech with same filter

Comptech may not hydrolock, but it can pick up water. All depends on how lucky you got locating the scoop behind the signal, I tried moving it back and forth and it always pick up water after rain, carwash - it doesn't hydrolock, but if you leave it overnight - it might evaporate onto your filter.

I bought comptech at early milage, it "felt" faster - and others said decent things about it. So, I wouldn't worry about it, until I read few post where people made more power with stock intake vs AEM, or talked to few people that did better 1/4 mile with stock than AEM. And I remember one post about stock having same numbers as comptech, and I wonder if they ran the same filter.

I'm not saying AEM/Comptech doesn't make power. Lets say GSR/Civic intake is worse than Type R, then of course it would be gains. Keep in mind that part of that gain would be from switching filters, paper filter vs k&n type or foam.

Another thing, since stock box came out first, I'd say Comptech and Mugen designed after it. Both start with filters located as in short ram. Their piping continues to into fender area. They all look very similar. Stock box has very nice assembly, never seen mugen in person, comptech assemly quality is worse than stock.

Foam filter flows better than paper. A fair comparison would be stock with paper filter vs comptech with stock paper filter (yes it fits). Or both intakes running foam. So many of you have Comptech icebox, if you have any "real" results, before/after - and with same filter, please post it here.


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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 06:30 AM
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Just buy a JDM header and carsound cat, thank me later.

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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 06:40 AM
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Default Re: Stock ITR Intake Box vs. Comptech Icebox? (BryanSprinkel)

Just buy a JDM header and carsound cat, thank me later.

werd if you any money left put a toda fw on it. combo of the header/cat/fw is well worth the money spent!!!!!!!
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 07:39 AM
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Default Re: Stock ITR Intake Box vs. Comptech Icebox? (vtec.dc2)

Comptech shows hp gain dyno with intake,header,exhaust,ecu so its not clear what makes the actual hp out of these 4.
i'm gonna bet that it wasn't the intake that made most of the gains, if any at all.. i've read so much on here about the great intake debate that I have decided to keep my stock setup, and probably just get a K&N filter for it.. some people have gains with aftermarket intakes of a couple hp.. i've heard of people losing hp from them too.. so since i don't want to gamble $200 on a possibly 1-3 hp gain(that could also end up as a loss), i'm leaving it how it is.. my money is better spent on other mods..

oh, and as a side note.. independant testing is really the best way to determine gains from aftermarket parts manufacturers, just like any other industry.. we need Consumer Reports for honda parts.. lol.. seriously though, it's hard to trust manufacturers own dyno plots..


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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 08:10 AM
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Default Re: Stock ITR Intake Box vs. Comptech Icebox? (BryanSprinkel)

Just buy a JDM header and carsound cat, thank me later.

yeah.. good stuff!
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 08:16 AM
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Default Re: Stock ITR Intake Box vs. Comptech Icebox? (disordeR)

If the search worked I think someone posted a dyno plot of a AEM vs a ICEBox. Icebox won.
Another person posted a dyno plot of a icebox vs a stock box with the icebox filter. Not much difference...

So if you're willing to go with a foam filter which doesnt filter as well as a stock filter, you should gain 80% of the power you'll gain from a AEM or Icebox.

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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 08:49 AM
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Default Re: Stock ITR Intake Box vs. Comptech Icebox? (jond)

Well i got the comptech header, and am loving it......dunno about the cat though...thanks anyways guys
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 09:21 AM
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Default Re: Stock ITR Intake Box vs. Comptech Icebox? (austrian type-R)

Oh yeah, Comptech claims 8 peak HP with 7 peak lbs. of torque with their exhaust and header system.

Yeah for sure, I say BS!!!!

No Intake in the world will produce that numbers on stock engine. I bet my turboed R 1-3 bhp is the maximum.

When you have enough money, then buy an Intake. I would safe the money for a real performance part.
Maybe the air is different over there in Europe, but 8 hp is not all that unheard of with a CAI on a Type-R.

In fact, it is generally true that a CAI gives the best bang for the buck of all the modifications that you could make on a Type-R. No other $150 modification is going to give you 6-8 hp.

[Slight correction: taking off the power steering belt will give you 3-4 hp for free, which is probably the best bang for your buck out there.]


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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 09:49 AM
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I dynoed before and after and gained 0.5bhp. This was with a K&N Air filter kit and K&N filters are supposed to be one of the best in the world. I used ram air ducts, to get the coolest air possible. Call me a dick but gaining up to 8whp from just an intake is just a stupid thinking.

Why don't you go on a dyno and test it out yourself. It is a work for 10 minutes and all you need are 2 runs on the rolls. Stop dreaming on adding that easy horsepower to a B18C6 which has 105.55 hp per liter NATURAL ASPIRATED!
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 10:09 AM
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Why don't you go on a dyno and test it out yourself. It is a work for 10 minutes and all you need are 2 runs on the rolls. Stop dreaming on adding that easy horsepower to a B18C6 which has 105.55 hp per liter NATURAL ASPIRATED!
Your level of condescention seems to be in direct proportion to your ignorance. Try to do some research before you make dogmatic statements.

Here is a dyno graph of three intakes on a stock R. The results reported here are pretty typical.



And here are the numbers for the Comptech.



Try to increase your level of knowledge before posting opinionated statements.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 12:54 PM
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And here are the numbers for the Comptech.



Try to increase your level of knowledge before posting opinionated statements.
Where did those dyno runs come from?

Well anyways at the Socal meet some local R owners here had a chance to dyno our cars including myself.

I had a Comptech Ice-Box with removed P/S = 181 whp

Another R with an AEM CAI with removed front blinker = 179 whp

This dyno was not a Dynojet as you can see in the numbers, and the difference in HP between our two cars here was maybe only because I had removed P/S and he had cold air streaming through the blinker opening, although now Iäm just speculating. Though I would agree that the Comptech doesn't give HUGE gains, it jast sounds g00d and adds some extra squeel while shifting hard.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 01:03 PM
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in my opinion....the argument over intakes is pointless...

The battle over a few hp is nothing, almost worthless if you ask me.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 01:14 PM
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Well when your dealing with such a light car, every couple hp counts...and the intake makes the car sounds sooo muhc better too.....

QUESTION....i know AEM CAI makes the car louder, but is it true that the icebox makes it sound basically stock?
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 01:26 PM
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so, is there a direct replacement K&N filter??
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 01:59 PM
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Where did those dyno runs come from?
I snarfed these from honda-tech early last year. When the IceBox was released, someone did a comparison of the three main ITR intakes.

~8whp is far from a trivial gain on a car as light as the Type-R. Most people stopped arguing about the effectiveness of cold air intakes a long time ago. Their effectiveness is beyond doubt.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 02:03 PM
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wait a minute people, it probably wont show any huge gains because your cars not moving. Maybe when it goes faster it will ram cooler air up into it?!?!
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