I posted this in the Transmission section but no views and Im in a big bind, sorry...

The mechanic just got done installing a new transmission for my b16 and when the shifter is in neutral, the trans is in reverse. When the shifter is in 2nd, the trans feels like its in 1st and the shifter will not go into "reverse".

 

shiftlinkage, had same problem when i put a tranny in a taurus, reverse was park, neutral was reverse and so on

 

He thought that too. But he only disconnected it from the transmission and let it hang from the shifter. He doesnt see how it can be reconnected any other way

 

Definately the linkage.. try adjusting it in the column.. or make sure there are no binds etc

 

ya deff have him check where it connects int he column.

 

Hes under the car checking it now. He just finds it hard to believe the linkage goes a different way. We just pulled the old trans out last night. Disconnected it from the trans, left it connected to the shifter and installed the new one tonight. Not sure if this is obvious or not (noticed roadsqueegy said reverse was park) but this is a manual transmission.

He just asked: Is there a picture anywhere of the way its supposed to be?

 

You meant this is an automatic..

 

no. I have a 99 Si motor. My transmission failed and order a new one which is a 00 Si transmission. Noticed when people started saying "column" and "park" something was getting mixed up

 

are you sure he put the pin back in the shifter(into the transmission) in the hole and not into free air? i've done that before but other than that it could be a bent linkage. Assuming this is a standard.

 

What the ****????


The only thing I can think of, and I've had this happen on my absol-****ing-lutely retarded designed 2g GST.. check the linkage underneath the center console.. and check the linkage underhood on the trans. There might be a c-clip that popped off. SAME thing happend on my car. But somehow I dont think honda uses this shitty design.

So check for linkage and c-clips that may have popped off

 

the linkage is 1 10 mm bolt (or 12...) and the pin (known as the bitch pin) not too much you can screw up on.

 

exactly. and thats why were are completely stuck. The linkage isnt bent, it shifted perfectly before taking out the old transmission. He removed the linkage to see if it possibly went in any other way and it doesnt. Worse case scenario, is it possible something is wrong in the trans itself?

 

I'm telling you man.. something disconnected under the console, or something under the hood on top of the trans. Just look around for an arm or linkage thats popped off

 

please stfu. nothing on top of the transmission is for shifting. shifting is on the back side of the transmission. the 2 bolts going into the floor are tight correct? are you positive the transmission was in working order before you installed it? (the new one) and did you tear the transmission apart for ANY REASON?
Does the shifter move when its in any gear? (side to side)

 

He just double checked all the connections. Both bolts (shifter and transmission) are connected. When the car is off, you can go through the gears and hear the "clicks". When the car is on and the shifter is in neutral (free moving left n right) and I slowly let off the clutch it starts creeping in reverse. The gears are a bit tricky to go into when the car is running. When I put it in 1st, nothing happens. When I put it in 2nd, it starts to creep forward as if it were in 1st. 3rd and 4th dont make the car go anywhere and I cant even get it into reverse.

I mean, the only thing left I can try n do is take pictures of the linkage all hooked up

 

do you know anybody with a spare linkage ? i got a feeling when you let the shifter down, you may have bent something around the shifter(the part connected to the ****) itself.
you didnt answer my other question, are you sure the 00 si tranny was in good working order?

 

2 bolts are tight, yes

It was "supposedly" in working condition. Was told it was taken apart for inspection, a picture of it open was provided to show new parts installed.

No the shifter doesnt move when in a gear, I mean, it has that slight slight wiggle but nothing that would make me go "WTF?"

 

Oops. Somehow I didn't think honda would have been ridiculous enough to make a dumb c-clip trans setup like Mitsu does.. but it was worth a shot

 

new parts installed... that would make me think there was something wrong with the trans. before they installed the parts... i do not understand the gears inside the transmission very well but i'm thinking they messed something up.

 

ya i was meaning on a auto trans. im completely lost lol. as stated before the tranny itself might be ****ed. im my 91 hatch someone had switch t3rd and 4th gear so when the shifter was in 3rd the tranny was in 4th lol sooo damn confusing. but i dont think that would apply to this....

 

this is what i was told about the new trans via email...

"I had gotten this transmission for a core charge from selling my other S4C tranmisssion that I rebuilt for a local honda owner. This transmission had a whine to it. I replaced both bearings on the differentail, both bell housing bearings on the main and counter shafts. Inspected the gear box bearings and they are mint. All syncros are fine and I replaced the 4-5th gear selector sleeve due to replacing the syncro for 5th too. I took some pictures as I was almost finished putting the cover back on just so you can see the new bearings. I put the cover on with it being sealed with Black RTV. I went throught the gears and all shifted fine. Has new axle seals but you will need a boot that covers where the shift rods PIN to the trans, 2 bolts for the passenger side mount and the slave boot cover. I normally only rebuild transmissions for locals or www.homemadeturbo.com members."

 

I'm gonna say.... seeming that the trans has been taken apart... and knowing that I have rebuilt plenty of honda transmissions... I'm sure they put a part inside incorrectly... most likely the part inside which moves the shift forks up and down and side to side... there are 3 bolts that hold it down.... and a couple pins below it that connect to the external shaft that your linkage connects to... imma assume that was put together incorrectly... seeming it isn't the easiest thing to assemble... I would say... take it apart... or put a different trans in... and I know there isn't anything wrong with the linkage cause they don't bend that easy and it worked before.... and all you did was disconnect it and move it over...

 

I also wanna add... try putting it in what you think is nuetral... move the shifter foward and back... it should move into 3 positions foward back amd in the middle... if it only does the 2 then there is definetly a problem with the trans

 

thanks for the input guys. Had a trans guy stop by to check it out. He's positive something internal is wrong. Pretty much said exactly what Hello Bart said.

 

make sure the tranny is sitting in its correct position, make sure the linkage is in working order