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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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I'm new to forums and to hondas in general. I should be get a honda accord V6 pretty soon. I was wondering what swap you guys recommend? I notice that the V6 engine code is c27a(170hp) and the code for the legend engine is c32a(230 hp). I did a brief search and couldn't find out if this engine could be swapped out. Am i better of going with the H22? That swap seems like a serious pain. Please just give me your advise.
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 12:39 PM
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i would go for an h22 swap

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/te...wap/index.html

read this it should help u out
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by preluderemis
i would go for an h22 swap

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/tech/0311scc_accord_h22_engine_swap/index.html

read this it should help u out

Negative if he has the V6
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 12:52 PM
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Negative if he has the V6
What he is saying is...
You have the v6 model. The engine mounts and bays are different. It would be way too much effort just to put H22 motor in that bay. It can be done(with LOTS of money and/or know-how), not worth it by ANY means though.

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BTW: this link here * http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/te...wap/index.html *did not work for me so I am unsure of what it is but, I dont think its anything about putting an H22 into a V6 Accord.

AND....... I thought we were talking about a 6gen untill I read your sn.
Please post model/year/trim in all tech related type questions.

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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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sorry guys 97 accord v6(c27a). Is that v6 swap plausible. I can't find anyone who has done it. is there any other available opinions
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 01:16 PM
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sorry guys 97 accord v6(c27a). Is that v6 swap plausible. I can't find anyone who has done it. is there any other available opinions
I Think you are talking about the CL-S swap I mentioned before I edited my post. I didnt realize we were talking about 5th gen v6. It is plausible for the 6g but I kinda think you are a little out of luck with the 5g as far as swaps go. Anyone else have any info on 5gen V6 swaps???

What are you wanting to do with your car?
If im reading right you dont even have the car yet, why would you want to swap the motor before you have even drove it?
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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I'm getting the car from a friend as soon as they move to CALI. I pretty modify every car i have, so I'm kinda excited about owning my first honda. I'm still deciding on body work, wheels, etc. I won't do any extreme body kit or anything. I really wanted to go VTEC, but since it's a v6 it really isn't plausible. Aftermarket support for the V6 is limited to say the least. I found out that acura legend has the same C code engine(C32A). This is a 230 hp engine. The problem is that I don't know if this is possible or not. I can't find any info, so i came here. The J series engine isn't possible.
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 97accordV6power
I'm new to forums and to hondas in general. I should be get a honda accord V6 pretty soon. I was wondering what swap you guys recommend? I notice that the V6 engine code is c27a(170hp) and the code for the legend engine is c32a(230 hp). I did a brief search and couldn't find out if this engine could be swapped out. Am i better of going with the H22? That swap seems like a serious pain. Please just give me your advise.
The C32a would be problamatic in the 5th Gen chassis, regardless of if you started with the V6 version. The C32 Aluminum 3.2L Vtec engine is larger still than it's C27 Iron 2.7L non-Vtec cousin.
Honda made sheet metal and subframe considerations just the shoehorn the 2.7 in there (and it's tight)
Even if you could somehow engineer in modifications, there's the wiring and electronics issues you'll have to deal with.

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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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I didn't want the C32B. That is the engine in the NSX. I can't afford that. The C32A has a single overhead cam like the C27A. I don't know if that makes a difference in clearence or not.
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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I didn't want the C32B. That is the engine in the NSX. I can't afford that. The C32A has a single overhead cam like the C27A. I don't know if that makes a difference in clearence or not.
It's also RWD, your car won't accept it. I would imagine you'll run into clearance issues, the CD is a much smaller chassis than a CG/CL-S
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 01:46 PM
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The acura legend is fwd. so that's not the issue
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 97accordV6power
The acura legend is fwd. so that's not the issue
I wasn't referring to the Legends but the NSX which is RWD so even if you could afford it, it wouldn't work.
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 02:20 PM
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Even if you DID swap in the engine from the Legend, I doubt you would be very happy. I had a 95 Legend previously and its not much to brag about as far as power. I'd say keep the engine, buy a cold air intake, headers and some nice exhaust as well as a nice wheel/tire combo plus some coilovers then call it a day. It'll make a hell of a difference plus it'll be fairly custom, you could even possibly do a legend dual piston brake swap but I am not quite sure. After all is said and done you will be set back a few grand and hopefully be content!
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 02:40 PM
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Just to clarify they sell JDM v6 so it comes with wiring harness, computer, trans, etc. I really don't know if the size is the issue. the accord v6 is 146 cubic inches while the v6 legend is a 196 cubic inches. The J30A1 is 183 cubic inches and they fit that into a civic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcnaoVuhr0w
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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Lol I wouldn't exactly say "fit" in a Civic, your hood is completely useless - at least in a stock sense. Why do you think they always have the hood off?
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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Ok....I can see your just being a smart***. Your forgetting the point. By the way it's call a cowl hood. Ever heard of it?
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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Ok....I can see your just being a smart***. Your forgetting the point. By the way it's call a cowl hood. Ever heard of it?
Whoa slow down cowboy.

I'm not being a smart ***. A LS7 will fit in an Prelude, two H22's can fit in an Integra. What's your point? I'm telling you that your engine bay is smaller than the Legends and is not formatted the exact same. So sure "it'll fit" if you want to spend the cash to have it modified.

No one has done a swap to the V6 CD chassis accord save for the 1 or 2 V6-manuals running around, one in Texas and one in Canada if I recall. They haven't played with doing a full mad tyte JDM legend swap. You also probably want to verify that those JDM V6 motors are the same setup as your accord, the reason the H22 is ruled out is due to your entire bay being flopped (battery, etc).

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Then on top of all that you have:
-axles, the legend's probably won't fit so custom
-AC lines, etc - probably different between the two
-ABS stuff interfering (location wise)
etc
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 97accordV6power
Ok....I can see your just being a smart***. Your forgetting the point. By the way it's call a cowl hood. Ever heard of it?
All Aluminum V6 Honda engines manufactured after 1998 are PHYSICALLY larger than their 2.7 Iron Pig found in the '95/'96 Accord Chassis. We all 'get' that there is a displacement difference.
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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Did they make an Odyssey V6 in the years for 5th gen. Like I know the older Odyssey had the F22B2 in it, well did they do a V6 that might have the same mounts for the 5th gen V6?
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 05:59 PM
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Did they make an Odyssey V6 in the years for 5th gen. Like I know the older Odyssey had the F22B2 in it, well did they do a V6 that might have the same mounts for the 5th gen V6?

I know the the '95,'96 and '97 had the F22B6, a varient of the B2.
For 1998 there was choice, a 2.2L F22Bx and a 2.3L F23x Vtec

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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 06:06 PM
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Well I mean for his application, was there a v6 in that body style.
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tamadrummer1120
Well I mean for his application, was there a v6 in that body style.
Starting with the 1999 model year. V6
Honda parts doesn't break out individual bits in it, just assembly.
It may not be Honda manufactured.

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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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what about the acura cl? 97-99? They have a V6 there? Because you can do the H22 swap in there for the 4 cyl. just like 5th gen 'cord. They may have made the same engine bay there for it.
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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You can't swap an H22 past 1999, to my knowledge there was not a V6 offered. And those year CL are almost identical to the CD Coupe save for a few tidbits.
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 06:40 PM
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Thats what i was getting at, did not know if they had the v6 in 97-99. Looks like all he has is just deal with what he has. They have a supercharger for the v6 dont they?
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