What you guys think I should get?I have a ek civic 4dr I daily drive it and go the 1/8thevery weekend.

So far I have got down to three choices,what do you guys think?

Koni/Ground Controls
Function and Form type II's
Cusco zero-two's

 

Cusco Zero2's cost what, $1500 or so? You could get Koni/GC for a little more than half that, and probably get most of the same benefits.

I would definitely pick Koni/GC over FFII's.

So yeah, Koni/GC is my pick.

 

I <3 my Koni/GC

 

look around for the cusco zero II. u can get them cheaper then 1500. go with full set over any sleve set up anyday. ive had GC/knoi and now have the zero II, big difference, but thats just me.

 

The Koni/GC has been proven infinite times by alot of users on here, therefore it is highly recommended. If you want a setup that adjusts the ride height without loosing shock travel, I would recommend PIC instead of the F&F

 

Im looking for adjustable damping as well as ride height. Any thoughts on the Buddyclub suspension anyone?

so form and function's arent much use then?

 

Check the pistons.

Koni's have very small pistons which inturn affects the compression dampening very much. Although they're great when it comes to rebound and they're track proven, the compression is lacking alittle with yellows. You're almost getting stock compression dampening with yellows.

If the Cuscos have a 1" piston that's already going to make them a slightly better option in my opinion. Something with rebound dampening and a nice sized piston will yield the best results IMO. Yellows are just very popular around here so you'll get a lot of people backing them up.

 

Koni's don't use the piston for compression damping

 

All suspension have a piston for compression and reboudn damping. The compression on most adjustables is already preset though... Some are better than other in compression depending on the piston. Koni Yellow compression stroke is lacking because of this small oem like piston. Other one piece dampers that use larger piston rods with rebound adjustments have better compression strokes because of the thicker piston they use.

For an OTS suspension system, there is other good options out there. My advice is something with better compression dampening since you don't have the option of adjusting that on most set-ups ranging from 600-1500 so try to get the system that already has good compressin dampening aswell, it's often overlooked.

 

Ok.What do you guys suggest?

any thoughts on Ksport Kontrol coilovers?

 

Koni/ground controls
Ksport kontrol's
Buddyclub N+ or
Buddyclub racing spec

thoughts anyone??

 

Cusco zero 2s if the ones for your application have pistons like these:

http://www.thezstore.com/store/graph...arge233925.jpg

 

Ive been trying to find out what systems have bigger pistons.

Still undecided.

Anyone have Buddyclub racing spec or N+ coilovers??

 

i got the function & form type II.love them better then my old omni's.dont ask people what should you buy.live and learn buy what you want and can afford.

 

how do they ride bro? how low are u?

 

Anyone know any decent places to get cusco's or buddyclub's?

 

Those have a large piston because they are replacements for OEM McPherson strut-type suspension. Those struts see high side loads, hence the reason for the larger piston. My 89 Camry's struts had a piston probably twice as large as those on my Integra's Koni shocks.

Double wishbone Hondas with shocks (not struts) do not have side loading subjected to the shock dampers, therefore the piston does not need to be as large.

 

Actually, they have large PISTON SHAFTS, which leaves less room for actual piston.

 

Koni twin tube shocks use a foot valve on the bottom of the inner tube for compression damping. They do not use the piston.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/road-racing-autocross-time-attack-19/anyone-ever-opened-up-set-koni-twin-tubes-2341710/

The compression stroke is lacking because of the non-idealities of how this foot valve mechanism works
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...2374810&page=2

 

koni/gc!!

 

x2...koni/gc may not be the best combo out there, but i believe it is one of THE best for the money. i have spring rates of 400f 450r and even though my ride is harsh, i beleive it would be even harsher if i did not select konis.

 

i like my zero2. i had koni/gc before. main difference to me was the koni's are full stroke so for daily driving they handle dips and elevation changes more fluently. there is a section when driving home on the freeway that i always slow down because i don't like being catapulted out of my seat after a hard day at work and having to drive 50 miles home. the zero2 are definitely a tad bit more harsh (but i've never put them on full stiff, usually at 1 or 2 on the dial), probably due to the valving since they are from japan and they have way better roads then us but still good for daily driving.

 

anyone have info about the cusco comp S? im sorry to thread jack

 

so koni/gc actually ride better than zero-two's?

 

Can you give us more feed back on your experience with both setups kranky81...thx