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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 04:04 PM
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how can u tell if it goes bad, instead of clicking just once when u turn the key, it clicks a million times and dont stop! safe to say its toast????
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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Sounds like it. Could also be come sort of loose connection causing the constant clicking of the main relay.

I'd go with the main relay first or try soldering the contacts, then go from there.
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 05:43 PM
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Sounds like it. Could also be come sort of loose connection causing the constant clicking of the main relay.

I'd go with the main relay first or try soldering the contacts, then go from there.
what he said.
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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hmm....yea ill try the relay first, gonna get a new one 2 morrow, then ill go from there, what do u mean my soldering the contacts??
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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take the cover off of the relay and you'll see solder joints, resolder them
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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i took the cover off...they look fine!
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 09:09 PM
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They look fine unless you know what to look for.

http://techauto.awardspace.com/mainrelay.html
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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do not repair or replace your relay until you have tested it! It is a very simple test.
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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Try this one. When something malfunctions in your car, do not just start repairing and replacing parts if you can avoid it. In this case, you have a very simple test that could possibly save you $50 or however much main relays cost these days. If you need help on how to perform a continuity test, let me know. I will explain it to you, but please do not replace or try to repair your relay without testing it first.
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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sorry for all the posts, but they keep coming out blurry...

You can download the service manual yourself at http://hondatech.info/downloads/Auto/Manuals/Civic/
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 09:32 AM
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alright thanks.....ill try that in a little while!
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 10:38 PM
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You're welcome. Please post your results so others can read and learn.
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 08:55 AM
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okay so i tested it and its dead.......so i just bypassed everything on the harness and the car started right up, took it out and ran the hell out of her. So later on im goin to get som toggle switches to hook everything up, thanks guys!
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 10:07 PM
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wait wait wait.... you're going to do what?

Honda engineers are a lot smarter than you and me. That is because they are a TEAM of educated professionals working together to develop a quality, reliable product. In other words, that relay is in the car for a very good reason. Believe me, if Honda could have saved a couple of bucks by skimping out on putting that relay in there, I guarantee, they would have done it...
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 07:32 AM
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just hit up your closest salvage yard and pick one up you can score one for like 10 bucks tops and thats one of the easiest fixes i can think of and those are a common weak part for civics and crxs ive gone through 2 in my 89 crx si and 1 in my 88 ef hatch so just buy one and swap it out much easier than bypassing all that and probally alot safier.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ef89
just hit up your closest salvage yard and pick one up you can score one for like 10 bucks tops and thats one of the easiest fixes i can think of and those are a common weak part for civics and crxs ive gone through 2 in my 89 crx si and 1 in my 88 ef hatch so just buy one and swap it out much easier than bypassing all that and probally alot safier.
and go ahead and resolder it while ya have it out to save from having to do later anywayz...
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 09:11 PM
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its all good im getting a new one, this was just temporary, new one at autozone is 40 bucks, cheapest i could find without being used!
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 04:31 AM
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Why not just resolder the joints and not expletive up your car's wiring harness?? Take the cover off the relay, see those solder joints? Heat them up until they melt and add a bit more solder if you want. Fixed. It is that easy. You can fix it properly way easier than whatever you're planning on doing.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 07:44 AM
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Wait a minute, main relay for 40? Last time I was there and looked, they were 140.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 08:52 AM
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there 40 at autozone, 80 at napa, and 60ish at schucks, and as for soldering ive never really done much of it, but i guess i wouldnt hurt!
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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will this main relay stop your fuel pump from working sometimes?my 90 civic does this from time to time.the first time it happened i had came out of the bank and my car would not start so i removed some fuses.the main fuse for the acc sparked when i put it back in and i guess it reset and the car started.so know when it does it i just remove and replace this fuse.i thought that the fuel pump relay was by itself.but looking at that drawing its on the same relay.anyone had this happen?
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Originally Posted by kmt63
will this main relay stop your fuel pump from working sometimes?my 90 civic does this from time to time.the first time it happened i had came out of the bank and my car would not start so i removed some fuses.the main fuse for the acc sparked when i put it back in and i guess it reset and the car started.so know when it does it i just remove and replace this fuse.i thought that the fuel pump relay was by itself.but looking at that drawing its on the same relay.anyone had this happen?

the only way to tell if your relay has gone bad is to test it. I have posted the instructions directly from the service manual above. Print it out, and run the test. If you are confused about how to read the chart, let us know, and we will help walk you through it.
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 08:56 AM
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I got 2 working relays.

Yeah testing them is easier if you got alligator clips or make a piece of wire with a clip on one end to supply power. Then get another wire like you use to check your CEL with.
Just make sure not to touch wrong ones with power to it.
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by kmt63
will this main relay stop your fuel pump from working sometimes?my 90 civic does this from time to time.the first time it happened i had came out of the bank and my car would not start so i removed some fuses.the main fuse for the acc sparked when i put it back in and i guess it reset and the car started.so know when it does it i just remove and replace this fuse.i thought that the fuel pump relay was by itself.but looking at that drawing its on the same relay.anyone had this happen?
The main relay controls power to both the fuel pump and the fuel injection computer via two separate circuits. They commonly fail in very hot temps, as when a car has been sitting out in the sun during the summer.

Screwing around with the fuses has nothing to do with it. It likely started working because you had a door open and let some of the hot air out.
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