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How many ep3's/ civic si's were affected by the 2nd/3rd gear problem?

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Old Feb 1, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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Default How many ep3's/ civic si's were affected by the 2nd/3rd gear problem?

Was it a percentage of the cars? Certain years worse or better than others? It's the only thing keeping me from buying one, unless I find out it was only a few that were affected. Post here whether or not yours was affected. Please keep it to ep3's only, and no rsx's. Please also post your year and mileage.

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Old Feb 1, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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thought only mainly the RSX's had it? I was affected but had it fixed
Old Feb 1, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Type-'S'paz
thought only mainly the RSX's had it? I was affected but had it fixed
As it says in your sig, you have an RSX, right? I thought it was only rsx's too, until I started searching this forum, and that's why I started this poll. So far, 25 views, 3 votes, all for "yes, my car was affected".
Old Feb 1, 2009 | 09:12 PM
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My 05 ep3 not affected. Only had it a short while though. It was one of the main things I checked when test driving, especially after driving 2 bad RSXs 6spds. I just asked on another thread, is there a best or better fluid to use?
Old Feb 1, 2009 | 11:00 PM
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So was this not a problem for the 02-03 ep3's? Was it just for the 6 speeds? It seems like it wasn't so much of a problem unless the trans was beat on, and even still, the mtf change seemed to help anyone with an ep3 to basically eliminate this problem.
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Bugeyeblue: You've asked your question several ways in three different threads. And I'd be willing to bet the farm that a significant percentage of those who take the time to respond to your poll on this board are going to report EP3/Civic Si transmission problems. There's no mystery here: we drive 'em harder, many are street racers, etc. So, if you fall within that same demographic, you can expect your Honda (Subaru, Mitsubishi, Mazda, etc., or whatever car you buy) will suffer some sort of mechanical failure -- 2nd gear synchomesh will give out, the clutch will fail, a valve will smack a piston -- you get the idea. Conversely, if drive your car with any semblance of mechanical sympathy -- it's a machine after all -- and the likelihood of your having transmission problems will fall to zero. That's why I suggested before that you look to a boarder survey; something like Consumers Reports, where a higher percentage of owners are not out on I-5, banging from gear to gear. If you expand your fields of research, I'm confident you'll see that Honda's Si's (all years, all models) have consistently top ratings. Ultimately, however, it comes down to how you drive your car.
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 04:35 AM
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the fg/fa's were affected too.
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 05:24 AM
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'05 Civic Si, 37k miles, change my MTF every 10k miles (i'm **** )

ZERO problems. But I don't drive like a douche canoe either, and I know how to shift properly whether I'm taking grandma to Bingo night or taking it to the track.

The only times I've noticed grinds is from hitting 1st to 2nd too hard/fast. I don't have motor mounts installed yet, but I'm confident that will make the tranny shift better.
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 06:18 AM
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ya i am sure the motor mounts will help big time... but my problem is when i am at the track going in to 3rd but I have found a short term solution... change my tranny oil at every oil change!
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Mechanic
Bugeyeblue: You've asked your question several ways in three different threads. And I'd be willing to bet the farm that a significant percentage of those who take the time to respond to your poll on this board are going to report EP3/Civic Si transmission problems. There's no mystery here: we drive 'em harder, many are street racers, etc. So, if you fall within that same demographic, you can expect your Honda (Subaru, Mitsubishi, Mazda, etc., or whatever car you buy) will suffer some sort of mechanical failure -- 2nd gear synchomesh will give out, the clutch will fail, a valve will smack a piston -- you get the idea. Conversely, if drive your car with any semblance of mechanical sympathy -- it's a machine after all -- and the likelihood of your having transmission problems will fall to zero. That's why I suggested before that you look to a boarder survey; something like Consumers Reports, where a higher percentage of owners are not out on I-5, banging from gear to gear. If you expand your fields of research, I'm confident you'll see that Honda's Si's (all years, all models) have consistently top ratings. Ultimately, however, it comes down to how you drive your car.
Yes, I have asked the question as many times as possible. Thank you for posting with informed mature knowledge in all the threads I've posted in. I guess I'm just trying to find out if it was a defect in these particular models, or was it just a weak point that "spirited" drivers found by driving like they're on a track with no professional driver training.
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 06:36 AM
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Thank you all for the input. Please, as stated in the o.p. of this thread, state your year and mileage whether you vote on this poll or not. Thank you.
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 07:12 AM
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year and mileage won't make much of a difference it depends on your driving too... I could have an 05 with 15k and grinding every gear... too many variables but I can tell you that there is a problem with this transmission and Honda should do something about it.

But if you do more frequent tranny oil changes you shouldn't have any grinding problems... unless you can't drive lol
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 03:45 PM
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If i shift from 1st to 2nd too fast and too lazily I get some issues sometimes. If you shift smooth and quick... Not fast and hard you shouldn't have any issues! Treat the shift **** like it is an egg... You don't need to BANG gears around. Just a smooth quick shift. Make sure the clutch pedal is fully pressed down before pulling the shifter out of gear and don't let the clutch out til the car is fully in gear.
Old Feb 2, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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2003, 135,000miles. I just bought mine. The engine bay was super clean, so I think it was all highway miles on mine before I bought it. And no grinding. Turns out some person in one of the nearby hick towns was the only owner before me.

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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 05:59 AM
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I have an 2002 135,000, bought it with 7,000 miles. 2nd owner...I drive with enjoyment, but never beat on it...And have had a grind a time or two being lazy but not this rpoblem you here. If you think about the couple of cars younger people are gonna be givin or able to purchase themselves...they would probably put Si's and RSX'S in that category. When young people get ahold of things they tend to wear them out due to a maturity level that isnt quite as appreciative as, say, and older persons would be.
Old Dec 22, 2009 | 10:56 PM
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i still think it depend on the driver. i had that problem too n now i got the motor mount, it some wah helps, it still grind but i still think it depends on the driver. Since i had my car for awhile now n learnin how my car works. i havent felt my tranny grind at all or beating the car
2003 143,000 miles
Old Dec 23, 2009 | 02:56 AM
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My 07 Si sedan after 8000 miles had to get it along with my dads 08 Mugen at about 600
Old Dec 23, 2009 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by D. Nemo ep
i still think it depend on the driver. i had that problem too n now i got the motor mount, it some wah helps, it still grind but i still think it depends on the driver. Since i had my car for awhile now n learnin how my car works. i havent felt my tranny grind at all or beating the car
2003 143,000 miles
wah?

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My 07 Si sedan after 8000 miles had to get it along with my dads 08 Mugen at about 600
fail.

redeem yourself by posting pics of your wife's voluptuous backside.
Old Dec 23, 2009 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Mechanic
Bugeyeblue: You've asked your question several ways in three different threads. And I'd be willing to bet the farm that a significant percentage of those who take the time to respond to your poll on this board are going to report EP3/Civic Si transmission problems. There's no mystery here: we drive 'em harder, many are street racers, etc. So, if you fall within that same demographic, you can expect your Honda (Subaru, Mitsubishi, Mazda, etc., or whatever car you buy) will suffer some sort of mechanical failure -- 2nd gear synchomesh will give out, the clutch will fail, a valve will smack a piston -- you get the idea. Conversely, if drive your car with any semblance of mechanical sympathy -- it's a machine after all -- and the likelihood of your having transmission problems will fall to zero. That's why I suggested before that you look to a boarder survey; something like Consumers Reports, where a higher percentage of owners are not out on I-5, banging from gear to gear. If you expand your fields of research, I'm confident you'll see that Honda's Si's (all years, all models) have consistently top ratings. Ultimately, however, it comes down to how you drive your car.
Exactly what I was going to say, pretty much word for word!

Originally Posted by turboteg2nv
'05 Civic Si, 37k miles, change my MTF every 10k miles (i'm **** )

ZERO problems. But I don't drive like a douche canoe either, and I know how to shift properly whether I'm taking grandma to Bingo night or taking it to the track.

The only times I've noticed grinds is from hitting 1st to 2nd too hard/fast. I don't have motor mounts installed yet, but I'm confident that will make the tranny shift better.
Douche Canoe.... werd.

Originally Posted by turboteg2nv
wah?



fail.

redeem yourself by posting pics of your wife's voluptuous backside.
Always my fail safe.

OP, I think it's safe to say that we have come to a conclusion.
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