Just my answer to the first question but the thread is locked.

Well, I like the idea and that is what I joined H-T for. I dislike modding cars unless it improves upon what the original engineers had in mind. As many people have said, if you dont use Honda parts is it really still a Honda. I like factory OE designs. I never had much interest in modding (all this ricey and bitchin race talk) because to me I do not believe that one person can improve upon what it took teams of engineers, clerical workers, and much testing to accomplish. I see people do this same thing to their homes and they end up wrecking them. To me the current board is filled with modders, and alot of the guys like the really techy issues like that. But they do not answer the everyday common problems -- perhaps they can't.

Then there is the common surging idle question, that pops up every few days, and although I have such problems from time to time, it is just plain boring to read anymore and I know what it is about, and feel like posting a reply like, "Just go read the archives like I had to, no one is gonna answer this 7 year old issue about cleaning an FITV."

On the other hand, when you need to use your car on a daily basis and suddenly something goes wrong just when you think your car problems are fixed, it does become upseting and you jump on H-T hoping to find a quick answer, so yes it is a good idea, but I'm not sure how practical it will prove to be. Most of the guys that I know who do this for a living certainly do not want to talk about this on their time off. So, who is gonna do it when most of them are at work? That leaves the DIY enthusiasts and they are mostly into modding.

 

I'm not sure where your going at with some of your comments...

but I still dont feel there is any benefit to an "Ask-A-Tech" thread, you saw the old one was locked so I'm going to assume you read why.

I would have appreciated an IM to inquire about the old thread and/or the possibility of a new one rather than just going ahead and making one.

 

Yes that is correct.

IIRC Honda-Tech was actually first conceived to be for those innovators and modifiers of Honda's that you don't seem to care for. It was a place for them to share there finds on how to modify and race Honda vehicles. It was not meant to be an everyday how to guide to fixing everyday problems with your Honda. There are manuals and technicians out there to help you with those kinds of problems.

IMO, Any mechanic that works on cars for a living shouldn't sit on here and answer questions for free. Keeping the professional knowledge to ones self helps keep food on the table. So the everyday DIY backyard mechanic is what your going to get. And if they tell you to read the FAQ or do a search, maybe that is what you should do. Or you could buy yourself a manual that will answer 99.9% of your questions.

 

I do it for a living! I'm on here quite a bit. Maybe some people actually like helping people. The ones that know how to help them selves some times want a second opinion. I seriously doubt this site was created to teach everybody everything. This is a gathering for honda enthusiasts. So some minor maintenence is featured in the FAQ forum. Big deal, more of the posts are modding of some sort! Who keeps it stock.

 

Well, maybe someday you'll figure it out, because I certainly cannot fathom what you cannot understand, when it really wasn't a rocket science concept, JMHO.

[/QUOTE]but I still dont feel there is any benefit to an "Ask-A-Tech" thread, you saw the old one was locked so I'm going to assume you read why..[/QUOTE]

No, actually I didn't read why, and I don't have a clue where I would even look for that, or that there would even be a reason, or that I should or was required to look. Millions of people everyday reply to original posted ideas. That is just human nature and the spirit of the Internet. It doesn't have to be an issue. I usually visit the board for "possible" answers to everyday problems, and rarely respond to other posts (due to time and inexperience mostly). I saw there were 1,600+ responses. THAT is alot of people responding, and there is no way I'm gonna read that many replies. Also, it was obvious from my slant (perspective) that I doubted it would work (meaning that in the end it might not make a hill of beans difference in the responses to any problem. It also seems to me that most people with Honda problems are already enough people answering questions). But whether you know it or not, many of the Automotive Boards on the Internet actually do have separate forums for modding or everday automotive maintenance. I also thought that I was free to post whatever I liked as long as it didn't break the law essentially or cause any disruption. Kinda makes me feel like your indirectly suggesting that censorship abounds here with no rhyme or reason.

[/QUOTE]I would have appreciated an IM to inquire about the old thread and/or the possibility of a new one rather than just going ahead and making one.[/QUOTE]

Ok, then lets do that. Here are some suggestions. Tell me what will work. 1. Past my replies into the other post. 2. I can rename the post this, "Don't ask a Tech." or perhaps you would like to give a title you deem appropriate, and then post my reply in there. This is Supposed to be the United States of America and there are FCC rules in place about speaking freely on the Internet without being censored with such underlying tension, its almost as if ... nah, never mind. But I think that maybe if I had read all those 1,600 responses I might have a different take on [your] perspective. But reading 1,600 + replies, before I reply, well that's just plain unreasonable - so, I was merely responding to the first and original post -- P E R I O D! -- because I have seen many a persons post go unanswered. In the overall scheme of things, my take on the original "Ask a Tech" post, is that the guy was merely suggesting a possibility for making the board work more efficiently. But as I said, perhaps there is a reason why you closed the post that I was not aware of, other than the bottom line interests of modding contributors and sponsers [according to Ghostaccord's claim of the boards purpose being primarily for modding].

 

I had a response all typed out and went back and re-read your post... I'm just a little too irritated now...

I'm a fair person, as I'm sure many users in the Accord forum will tell you, but your post is just irritating to say the least.

I may respond a little later...

 

Yeah, to hear you tell it. And if that is true, well then, there are thousands of people who joined this HONDA board and these HONDA Forums who have been badly deceived. And yes, I dislike modding period ... IT'S LIKE REPLACING STEAK WITH HOT DOGS! OMG, modding enterprises must be making a fortune selling modded car parts to teenie boppers who have to have the Fastest, or the Biggest, or the Loudest, or the Flashiest. Nah, I'm a pure Honda OEM lover.

It was not meant to be an everyday how to guide to fixing everyday problems with your Honda.[/QUOTE]

id., Ditto, answer above.

IMO, Any mechanic that works on cars for a living shouldn't sit on here and answer questions for free.[/QUOTE]. Keeping the professional knowledge to ones self helps keep food on the table.

Well, now we know your feelings on that subject. But irregardless of your feelings, it might not have occurred to you that the statistics say that 99% of the average person just isn't intertested in doing their own automotive work, and as for the ones that do, it has also been statisically proven that they have not taken from the profit of the trade, but when al is said and done, have only added to it.

So the everyday DIY backyard mechanic is what your going to get[/QUOTE].

Yes, I know, and many of them actually do analysis, and are quite competent. Hallelujah!

And if they tell you to read the FAQ or do a search, maybe that is what you should do.[/QUOTE]

Oh, believe me I have.

Or you could buy yourself a manual that will answer 99.9% of your questions.[/QUOTE]

Like a Helms manual, Huh!? he he he

Ok, now its my turn. On automotive sites, usually the suggestions are reverse from what you [Ghostaccord] are claiming. But, heck, it doesn't matter to me how you run your board, if you do or don't start a new forum. I'm not saying you should. I just dislike modding period. But that was only part of what I was saying, and I do not have to like it. You might find this interesting: I was reading about a psychological study among males into aggressive sports, firearms, and fast powerful cars, that the majority of them suffered from an inferiority complex and were insecure about their ***** size. Now THAT is saying something. Have a nice day.

 

Glad to hear it. Keep up the good work. I'll add your name to my list of helpful and knowledgeable Honda people.

[/QUOTE]The ones that know how to help them selves some times want a second opinion.[/QUOTE].

That's me!

[/QUOTE]I seriously doubt this site was created to teach everybody everything[/QUOTE].

Your free to doubt anything you choose to.

[/QUOTE]This is a gathering for honda enthusiasts. So some minor maintenence is featured in the FAQ forum. Big deal, more of the posts are modding of some sort! Who keeps it stock?[/QUOTE]

I do! Wait a second, didn't you just say this: [/QUOTE]"I do it for a living! I'm on here quite a bit. Maybe some people actually like helping people."[/QUOTE].

I like to let people say say whatever they want. It's fun, all these discussions, don't you think!?

 

I dont know why you are. I'm really stumped. But one thing I do know, since I bent over backward to accommodate getting my thread put under the original post, there is something going on here on this board agendas or motivations ]that are beyond what I know or am seeing. What YOU need to do, if you truly are fair, is re-read my post and then tell me what was so offensive about my opinion on the topic, i.e., feelings about a subject that I did not start. Again, I do dislike modding, but I also dislike rap music with a passion, yet, do you think I can stop it? To each his own. What is really nuts is that I am far more in favor of a forum that answers primarily everyday maintenance and more involved repair issues. Jeesh, what crime is there in that opinion? Yet, look at how that other board member who was in favor of the same thing, still copped a slight attitude with me -- actually more like brown-nosing. Its like people cannot resist their urges, they just have to have the last word

IM me if you prefer not to post your irritated thoughts. At this point, that has my interest more than anything about the darn subject. I'm darn fair too, and like I said I'm stumped what bothered the three people that responded to my trying to just add a feeling on the subject.

Btw, I have learned from your posts in the archives as well as others, and I am disappointed that you are irritated with me, when I was hoping to learn more things from you and others. IM me with what was "Honda-Tech- Politically-Incorrect" about my thread and responses.

 

I dont know why you are. I'm really stumped. But one thing I do know, since I bent over backward to accommodate getting my thread put under the original post, there is something going on here on this board's or Forum's agenda, that is beyond what I know or am seeing. What YOU need to do, if you truly are fair, is re-read my post and then tell me what was so offensive about my opinion on the topic, i.e., feelings about a subject that I did not initiate. If it was only about continuing the subject or a new thread, then why were Ghostaccord and Hon2984 allowed to chime in? Why the double standard? They get to say what they want and I don't!!!? For that matter, I have never seen any forum EVER, where ANY subject was only discussed ONCE AND FOR ALL and forbidden from being raised. The more I think about this the more I wonder why I am asking who or what is making me defend a simple thread. If this is all about the agenda of Honda modders, you really don't think they are suddenly gonna stop modding because of me, do you? Heck, modders are modders by any other name, just like a rose. That's what they do. Relax, it was only one person's thought.

Again, I do dislike modding, but I also dislike rap music with a passion, yet, do you think I can stop it? To each his own. What is really nuts is that I am far more in favor of a forum that answers primarily everyday maintenance and more involved repair issues, and Jeesh, what crime is there in that? Yet, look at how that other board member [Hon2984] who was in favor of the same thing, still copped a slight attitude with me -- actually more like a bit of brown-nosing. Its like people cannot resist their urges, they just have to have the last word

IM me if you prefer not to post your irritated thoughts. At this point, that has my interest more than anything about the subject. I'm darn fair too, and like I said, I'm stumped. Btw, I have learned from your posts in the archives as well as others, and I am disappointed that you are irritated with me, when I was hoping to learn more things from you and others. IM me with what was so "Honda-Tech- Politically-Incorrect" about my thread and responses.

 

ok, fine...

your first post wasn't what irritated me, it was your 2nd 3rd and 4th posts.

first of all, why respond to a question that was posted over 3 years ago. You said there were 1600+ responses in that thread, don't you think it was already answered? No need to make a new thread for a question that was posted 3 years ago.

common sense should tell you that if something was closed it was done for a reason. So instead of just making a new thread for the same thing at least try to find out why. You didn't even try, that's irritating. It was as simple as going to the last page and reading the last post, in this case at least.

Your sarcasm in the second part of your 2nd post was irritating as well. Whether you intended it to come across that way or not it did and I don't take well to that when I didn't encourage that kind of response.

and cut it out with the whole censorship thing, that's irritating as well. No one is censoring you. I hate how people like to pull cards like that. That's why we have sub forums. If someone posted about some government policies I would move, not because I am censoring them but because it does have a place here in the Accord forum, instead they should be posting in the appropriate sub forum. So if you want to petition IB to add a sub forum for professionals to answers questions then go ahead but that doesn't belong in the Accord forum, maybe the GDD?

just because you have an idea of what Honda-Tech should be about doesn't mean people have join under a false pretext.

your comment about some study relating someones ***** size to their interest in aggressive sports, firearms and powerful cars was just stupid.

sorry hon2984 for using you as an example but... how are you to know hon2984 really does this for a living? he could be lying. you could ask him for help, he gives you wrong info that you thought would be correct so you went and spent $100 in parts but your car still does run right.

telling someone "they can doubt whatever they choose to" and insinuating you thoughts on that is whats correct is irritating. Assuming your thoughts of why this site was created without knowing for sure is irritating.

There is no crime in your opinion, it's the way you are coming across that is rubbing me the wrong way and irritating me.

omg! there is no double standard. Since I've been a mod I've always made it a point to not do that. I left this open to give you a chance to respond. Sure I could have locked it but I can only imagine how that would have turned into a whole crap load of talk about censorship.

And this hasn't been discussed only once. there you go again passing your opinion of as fact.

Thanks for your compliments. I have learned a lot on here so that's why I try to give back.

 

What?
You didn't tell him about the;
Secret Handshake?
The Nifty Uniforms for Senior Contributors?
The Monthly Dinners at the local Surf & Turf?
and the monthly smoke filled back room meetings where we plot the demise of all those competing forums?

No? Well I certainly hope you didn't!
Geez, did I type that out loud? Sorry, me bad.

It was threads like this that gave me cause to put down my keyboard and walk away a while ago; and I suspect that it's was the same for other contributors more senior than I am. I'm here because I like being here, trying to help others. I do it on a part time basis, derive no income from it and contribute only to such topics that I am proficient in. I will continue to contribute, on an informal basis on the understanding that if (for any reason (like making a living)) I were not to be available that some other like-minded individual would step up to the plate.

If someone is "Hot" for an "ASK A Technician", I would suggest the one readily searchable thru Google and the same one that adverts thru this forum's header. It would not work here; for primarily Legal, Liability and Compensation reasons. In fact, it doesn't work all that well at the other site as well. I've seen all manner of no answers, delayed answers and (of course) no payments.

Honda-tech is what it is.
It is the child of the Forum's owner
The moderators do nothing but keep the peace and enforce the forum rules as put down by the owner.

Suggestions are more than welcome (I've never heard any dismissed out of hand) and I would suggest a PM to the appropriate sub-forum moderator. That way I won't get P**ed off reading this tripe and go home with my tool boxes.

P

 

"Ask a Technician" didn't have a constant technician. Thus it was closed.

99% of the issues are addressed in the Accord FAQ and those that aren't warrant starting a new thread.

That FAQ is well organized and has links to the original fix-it threads. These pertain both to modding and maintaining your car. It should also be the starting point of your search for a problem.

Touring locked the thread because as stated, there was no active tech, so there were many unanswered questions because no one looks at the damn thing.

 

Sorry but I lol'd.

1) This is an international forum
2) You agree to a ToS when you signed up, I suggest you reread it

What are you going to do? File a complaint with the FCC because some big mean moderator locked a post? Get over yourself.

*edit* Just checked, figures you're 50.