Nitto NeoGen VR
Has anyone put Nitto NeoGen VR 205/50/15 on their R (Stock 15" R Rims)? Looking into getting a set and they seem to get good reviews as a well-rounded performance summer tire. Any review or other suggestion for tires is appreciated!
First of all, the Nitto NeoGen is not a summer tire; it's an all-season tire. And like all all-season tires, it's designed for the flexibility to be able to be used in snow and frigid cold, as well as in moderate to warmer temperatures. In exchange for that added flexibility, it doesn't grip as well in moderate to warmer temperatures as a summer tire does (on dry pavement as well as in rain). One other advantage of all-seasons is that they last longer than summer tires. If you need all-season tires, the Nitto NeoGen is a decent one; other good all-seasons that won't break the bank include the Kumho ASX, Goodyear Eagle GT, and Pirelli PZero Nero M+S.
If you don't need all-seasons, then get summer tires and take advantage of their better performance. Those tend to break down into longer-lasting summer tires that do well in rain and on dry pavement, and supersticky but fast-wearing summer tires that grip well on dry pavement and are also suitable for an occasional autocross event. Good choices in longer-lasting summer tires in 205/50-15 and 195/55-15 include the Yokohama S.drive, Fuzion ZRi, and if you can find it, the Kumho SPT. Good choices in supersticky summer tires include the Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec and Toyo R1R in 195/55-15 and the Kumho XS, Toyo R1R, and Falken Azenis RT-615 in 205/50-15.
If you don't need all-seasons, then get summer tires and take advantage of their better performance. Those tend to break down into longer-lasting summer tires that do well in rain and on dry pavement, and supersticky but fast-wearing summer tires that grip well on dry pavement and are also suitable for an occasional autocross event. Good choices in longer-lasting summer tires in 205/50-15 and 195/55-15 include the Yokohama S.drive, Fuzion ZRi, and if you can find it, the Kumho SPT. Good choices in supersticky summer tires include the Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec and Toyo R1R in 195/55-15 and the Kumho XS, Toyo R1R, and Falken Azenis RT-615 in 205/50-15.
Last edited by nsxtasy; Jan 29, 2009 at 01:15 PM.
What the heck? I thought they were a summer tire... I want summer tires or comp tires because I don't drive my car in the winter. My bad...
With that in mind, any better suggestions?
With that in mind, any better suggestions?
If you don't need all-seasons, then get summer tires and take advantage of their better performance. Those tend to break down into longer-lasting summer tires that do well in rain and on dry pavement, and supersticky but fast-wearing summer tires that grip well on dry pavement and are also suitable for an occasional autocross event. Good choices in longer-lasting summer tires in 205/50-15 and 195/55-15 include the Yokohama S.drive, Fuzion ZRi, and if you can find it, the Kumho SPT. Good choices in supersticky summer tires include the Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec and Toyo R1R in 195/55-15 and the Kumho XS, Toyo R1R, and Falken Azenis RT-615 in 205/50-15.
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ive been using the Falken RT-615's for a while now...and i have absolutely no complaints, ive driven to track, ran, and driven home with no issues. they just get better the more use you put into them.
i just bought 4 new neogens last week for my 01 R....so far i like them! no complaints. they are a bit harder then the azenis' i was on previously, but i dont mind compromising the grip a little bit for the extra miles i can get out of them. I dd my R and i got arnd 25k miles out of the azenis' (which is farrrr more then most ppl get) so im hoping to get maybe 30-35k on the neogens. we'll see...I also had a sick hookup on them so it was kind of a no brainer for me. If your looking for performance and NOT treadlife, go with the azenis'. they def out perform the neogens IMO
I've experienced with neo gens before and they def. dont grip as well as my old es100's. I recommend the s-drives, if you can't find them i'd recommend the fuzion ZRI's.
And if they're nearly bald, they're not legal on the street, where tires must have 2/32" of tread depth to be legal. Most summer tires come with 10/32" of tread depth when new. Some of the "supersticky" tires (e.g. Azenis) come with 8/32", while others (e.g. Star Spec) come with 10/32". The A048 comes with 6/32" of tread depth.
It's a track tire. Use it on the track, not on the street.
The Yokohama A048 is an R compound track tire. It's great for the racetrack, but for street use, they have a lot of disadvantages: they wear fast (they won't even last as long as tires like the Azenis), they're not good in rain, they need to get some heat in them to be fully effective (which rarely happens on the street), they don't give much warning before losing traction, and last but certainly not least for most of us, they're extremely expensive ($207 per tire in 205/50-15 at the Tire Rack, and no that is not a typo).
And if they're nearly bald, they're not legal on the street, where tires must have 2/32" of tread depth to be legal. Most summer tires come with 10/32" of tread depth when new. Some of the "supersticky" tires (e.g. Azenis) come with 8/32", while others (e.g. Star Spec) come with 10/32". The A048 comes with 6/32" of tread depth.
It's a track tire. Use it on the track, not on the street.
And if they're nearly bald, they're not legal on the street, where tires must have 2/32" of tread depth to be legal. Most summer tires come with 10/32" of tread depth when new. Some of the "supersticky" tires (e.g. Azenis) come with 8/32", while others (e.g. Star Spec) come with 10/32". The A048 comes with 6/32" of tread depth.
It's a track tire. Use it on the track, not on the street.
sorry...to clarify, the car was mainly tracked this summer and on the track they performed great. they do tend to wear fast like you mentioned but i was going to replace them this summer anyways so i ran them on the street for about a month before i parked the car. to be honest, they were fun to drive with on the street as well as long as you don't do anything really stupid.
) On a mostly-tracked car, sometimes it makes sense to leave the track tires on the car to move it from here to there. I leave my track tires on the car during a track event overnight when driving to and from the hotel. And when I go to a track event, I leave my spare at home; if I have a flat while driving between home and the track, the track tires also function as my spares.
I am currently using these tires on my Si and they also came on my R. On both cars I am running 205/50/15 tires.
These tires rock on the strip and on the street for the money. I pick them up for a little over 50 bucks a tire (b/c of local hookup from a friend at a tire warehouse and i install them fo free).
For the money, I can't beat them for the straight line performance I get from them.
Cornering wise though, I don't really like them. Maybe it is my tire size but they are too gummy on the sidewall. They wash out easily if you go into a corner.
If you don't drive in the winter, I wouldn't waste your time with these.
These tires rock on the strip and on the street for the money. I pick them up for a little over 50 bucks a tire (b/c of local hookup from a friend at a tire warehouse and i install them fo free).
For the money, I can't beat them for the straight line performance I get from them.
Cornering wise though, I don't really like them. Maybe it is my tire size but they are too gummy on the sidewall. They wash out easily if you go into a corner.
If you don't drive in the winter, I wouldn't waste your time with these.
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