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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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does anyone have them? has anyone heard about them? any info is helpfull thanks
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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Yea I have the Blox Drag Coilover 12k Front/18k Rear. 10K miles since installation. A little stiff for a daily driver, which is expected. I personally would recommend it to anyone thats in the market for a full coilover setup. The ones pictured below are the Tuner Series style.

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1000 lb rear springs hahaha I'd like to see the dyno plot for that damper. Wonder if it can really withstand it, seeing as how a $500 set of OTS Koni dampers by themselves can only handle about 500-550 lb springs.

I would love to get a set of those dust boots if I were ever to put GC's back on my Koni shocks.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 10:21 AM
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cool thanks but are they damper adjustable
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by poptart_ek4
cool thanks but are they damper adjustable
It doesnt matter how adjustable the dampening (im guessing rebound) is, it still doesnt change the maximum spring rate the shock can take
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by xd69
It doesnt matter how adjustable the dampening (im guessing rebound) is, it still doesnt change the maximum spring rate the shock can take
You would think that since Blox slaps 18K springs on there that the dampers would be tuned to handle it (haha yeah right). I wouldn't expect any damper in that price range to handle springs that stiff.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 04:08 PM
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^ i do agree with you that i'd love to find a set of those dustboots
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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You would think that since Blox slaps 18K springs on there that the dampers would be tuned to handle it (haha yeah right). I wouldn't expect any damper in that price range to handle springs that stiff.
What parts must be more expensive for a damper to handle higher spring rates?
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 06:42 PM
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What parts must be more expensive for a damper to handle higher spring rates?
If (and its a big IF) linear damping is acceptable, then nothing should be expensive to have a shock designed for high spring rates (compared to the same linear damping but with lower values).

If you want a digressive curve, or want to be able to adjust the damping, then I would imagine that the cost of parts can go up quickly.

Don't Konis use a pop off valve to reduce damping as shaft velocity increases? Thats got to cost more than a simple hole in a shim.

Of course, one would also assume that hysteresis is reduced with superior shock internals, which (I would assume) would be more of an issue as rates (and damping) increase.
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Originally Posted by TunerN00b
If (and its a big IF) linear damping is acceptable, then nothing should be expensive to have a shock designed for high spring rates (compared to the same linear damping but with lower values).

If you want a digressive curve, or want to be able to adjust the damping, then I would imagine that the cost of parts can go up quickly.

Don't Konis use a pop off valve to reduce damping as shaft velocity increases? Thats got to cost more than a simple hole in a shim.

Of course, one would also assume that hysteresis is reduced with superior shock internals, which (I would assume) would be more of an issue as rates (and damping) increase.
Perhaps.... but do you really think the Blox dampers have different characteristics based on what springs they are shipped with?
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If you want a digressive curve, ... then I would imagine that the cost of parts can go up quickly.
Bilstein, at least, doesn't charge any more for a thicker shim.

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Don't Konis use a pop off valve to reduce damping as shaft velocity increases? Thats got to cost more than a simple hole in a shim.
You're comparing a twin tube foot valve design (on the compression stroke) to a monotube shimstack design. Neither get appreciably more expensive if you want to valve them for higher spring rates.

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Of course, one would also assume that hysteresis is reduced with superior shock internals, which (I would assume) would be more of an issue as rates (and damping) increase.
This may be true, although I don't know how they do it. In general, if you have less bleed (higher damping) you will have higher hysteresis anyway.
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