i picked up a Frankenstein motor from my budy its a B16 bottom end with a LS head, he just threw it together with the extra parts he had and he machined the head and what not to make it work right, but now im at a stand still because i dont know which timing belt will work on the motor. First i bought a brand new LS timing belt 125 teeth and it was too long so i borrowed a B16 timing belt from a buddy which was 124 teeth and it still is too big. I am wondering if a dohc zc timing belt or maybe some other belt would work and also need to know if i need to switch out water pump and maybe the crank timing gear to make on of the other b series belts work. thanx in advance

 

I'd just ditch that motor and rock a d16. Honestly, that motor is going to be a dog.

 

im gonna use it and it the last real part i need mang its about 9.7:1 cr so on boost it should run fairly well i just want info thanx besides d series rods are weak sauce lol

 

Deck height is the problem. You could try switching out the timing gear and water pump from an LS to put up for it, but I don't think it would help. Umm, maybe the belt from a B17a might work, but I think it has the same block/head height as a B16a. Try the dohc ZC belt. Might also try a F22 SOHC belt - longer, but smaller than a DOHC one.

Also, whatever belt you try - try it WITHOUT the valves in the head. Just pop the cams in, no bent valves when spinning it. Bare LS heads are cheap.

Yeah, it'll be a dog unless you got some good cams in it. If the clearances are good, consider some 403's to put up for the cam loss, otherwise OMG weird.

 

What water pump is in the car?

 

its a b16 water pump ya thats why im gonna run boost to make up for everything lol cr is about 9.7 to it shouldnt be too bad but ya worst of both worlds no torque or hp lol thats why boost will be salvation with this motor and ill try a zc belt and get back wit ya

 

b16a lacks displacement therefore potential for tq and hp b18b intake manifold,exhaust manifold,throttle body,valves,flow are all focused on low and mid power from a N/A set up and is horrible for boost and performance. sorry I brought your hopes down bro Iam just trying to stop you from wasting your time. your gonna have to buy gaskets,machine and deck the head,tap oil lines,assemble it all for a super weak non-vtec, I mean a crvtec is for the best of both worlds vs yours is for the worst of the worst! this build = low output per lt with an already big lack of lts 1.6 for probably the cost of a ls if not a gsr! my conclusion for the effort and money you wanna spend, buy yourself a gsr and call it a day!

 

thats the problem im just throwin this motor together for fun i have 11 cars and this is just a spare motor and i have a fully built ls and a gsr already i just want to finish it and see how it does for what it is, and iv had quit a few ls motors on boost and they ran pretty strong so ya its cool that your tryin to help i just already have everything and just need a timing belt motor is together already. dont worry bout bringin my hopes down i dont expect this motor to run 11's nor did i ever i just have it as an extra as i put a new ls bottom end together

 

You're 21 and you have 11 running cars? Let me guess, you have a 10" **** too?

 

at this very moment only 6 run but the other ones are all in the process of being swapped and will be running too but ya i have owned over 80 cars since i turned 14 i bought my first cars before i even had a licence lol and actually my **** is 12 inches ha ha ha

 

Wow....... seriously? you have 11 cars, owned over 80 cars, 6 runs, and you're wasting time with a b16 block and ls head??? 0_0
You're not counting all your shopping carts are you?

 

bullsh*t.

 

Idk a buddy of mine has had over 60 cars and he's 21. Right now he's rocking an 06 GT mustang, 90 LX Mustang 5.0, 99 Ej8 with gsr, 94 eg8 with b16, and a 91 Si hatch beater. I just wonder how much his insurance is...

 

you can call bull **** all ya want man i have a pic on my camera of all 11 titles i have right now

 

but ya like i said i will just try the zc belt and then let ya all know whats happenin

 

remember that the timing belt is based on the block and water pump used. a 1.8 block with a ls pump equals a ls belt. a b16 block with a vtec pump means a vtec b16 belt. a 1.8 block with a vtec pump is a GSR/itr belt.


the cam gears are all the same.

 

part out the motor and call it a day.

 

ran that setup for jokes lol at my buddys shop lol in a ef lol built ls head port matched and polished and on stock cams and valves b16 block with pct pistons burning oil to hell lol it ran a 172 on the dyno lol its jokes same hp as a 99 si lmao also revs 9000 no problem lmao use it as a daly driver for the shop sounds kida odd tho lol mix between a ls bog and a b16 top end screem lol but with no vtec lol going to part together a cheap turbo and see what it will put out till it pops lmao

 

taking an ls head to 9000 is pretty sketchy. the rockers like to pop themselves out.

 

what a waste...b16's aren't too bad on their own cause vtec...ls's aren't too bad cause the torque..


your just wasting your time here....you'll have maybe 110whp and 90ft/lbs of tq at 7500rpms...LOL

 

lol ^

 

Every one here is right but I don't agree with them and this might not b popular. But its not bad. The b16 bottom has better lubrication then the 18 's bottom and. A near perfect rod ratio. Makes it stronger then the ls bottom. And on a flow bench the non vtec flows better numbers. . If u can find a belt. ... It dosent have to b for a honda . I put a zc head. On a d16y7. Bottom in a 6th gen. And a f22 belt was perfect must have tried every belt in advance. Auto .. Another problem is the oil ports in the block to the vtec silinode. I'd block them not sure ia ls head gasket would keep the oil in I wuldnt trust I if u find a belt mabe try some jb weld and save this for last cuz ur a bout to ruin a b block for something that might not work . How do you know its going to b a 9.7.1 compression with out knowing what head gasket your going to use. If that head on that block. Isn't going to b the same I think a ls combustion chamber is smaller and I think a b16. Pistons ride higher. I no 16 pistons in a ls gives . More compression. . And 9.7.1 might. Be right. Just wondering how. You got those numbers. For some reason I think I might b higher. . Let us no how this turns. Out .. I think if the right cams and a 84mm bore to uncwench ur valves. It make a sweet power plant.

 

haha

 

Whats you name...I have friends in Idaho that can vouch for you if your legit. The 80 cars is easy...you can flip a car in less than a week to dumb kids in Idaho...but its the cars you own/race I am more concerned with.

PM me your name and I will see if the guys in Idaho have heard of you...if you race, go to firebird or even have a couple nice Hondas/imports you have to be known.

If you refuse I will be forced to agree with those who call BS, sorry.

 

this thread is ancient lol and now iv owned almost 100 cars ha ha ha ha

my name is Brian Petty and it depends on which guys you know in Idaho but if you get on Idahomotorsports.com and ask iv owned a lot of cars i think im at 96 or something right now.

These are the cars i own right now and the builds in all of the

94 integra type r rhd rep.
JG full long block
JG sleeves
JG custom made rods
Custom cr wiseco pistons
Full race balance and assembly by JGenginedynamics
Full cnc's head
oversized valves
jg spring retains ect
Head flows 312cfm on the intake
PT67 high output
Custom made ram horn manifold
Synapse wastegate and bov


Next I have twin 91 civic si's
1st si
Benson sleeved single cam
CP pistons
eagle rods
Full race balance as well
Fully cnc'd head
oversized valves
Zex 59300 camshaft
supertech valve springs and retainers
60 trim turbo setup
cast mani
Egay front mount




2nd 91 si
SRP pistons
Eagle rods
Skunk2 valve springs retianers
Skunk2 tuner 2 cams
oh full 5 angle valve jobs on all 3 cars
Blox turbo manifold
HX35w holeset turbo
Precision 650hp intercooler

and here are the pics of these car i own right now along with a red stock crx and a white 91 4 door with a twin cam zc swap that im yanking out and putting a fully built ls vtec in that i picked up bout a week ago. So like i said call all the bull **** ya want i know i own these cars and if ya dont beleive it i dont really care

this is the single cam with the old gt30 setup




Here is the type R but it doesnt have the BWs372 now it has the PT67ho







And here is the ls-vtec hatch from the day i bought it, up to today


During mock up and install of the turbo its done now but i dont have pics yet




Here are some pics from this summer all the cars in the pics i owned but the silver hatch and the grey integra are gone now

Here is a pic of my old ls-v coupe as well



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here is a pic of my old vitara built hatch

and here is a old old old pic back in the ricer days lol

and of coarse my first turbo's car 95 civic ex with a jdm single cam zc and a turbo


I can keep goin all day with pics