Anyone replace their stock engine mounts with the Mugen set? ($370 from King, OE replacements are ~$280 wholesale) Any observed difference in engine flop or vibration at idle or shifting under high g's?

TIA for any comments.

 

I used to have the Mugen MTGs and i like them too bad they break after a period of time and I am now running Spoon. Worthy upgrage.

 

I have been looking into new mounts- any info on the spoons?? weblinks??

later

matt

 

I plan on installing my set of Mugen engine mounts along with the ES engine mount inserts, when the turbo motor comes on-line.

hehe, just looked in that box, and forgot all about the Mugen 3-piece shifter bushing set and LHT MC brace.

I need to finish this project, soon!
Before I buy even more parts.


[Modified by Zygspeed, 9:10 AM 8/7/2002]

 

mugen

post some pics when you are done

 

A BM vid that compared 50,000km+ cars and their reliabilities indicated that on the ITR, the only thing need to be replaced and watch out for is the engine mount. While all other turbo cars have to change the turbine and whatnots..yadayadayada.

 

How do you know when you need to replace engine mounts?

 

hehe ... it will all look the same once installed.
The engine mounts, that is.

 

The last time i saw a set of mugen engine mounts, they didnt seem to do anything
since the engine still moved around A LOT. ES inserts with stock mounts make
more of a difference for about 1/10 cost.

 

I'll agree since I have the Mugen Mounts and didn't notice Much difference.
I plan on installing the ES inserts soon.

 

Are the ES inserts the ones with those odd retaining pseudo-zip-tie straps?

If so, what's a better way of holding these inserts in?

I have a set of front lower engine mounts and I've noticed the driver's side insert is being held on by only one of the straps.

 

I'll be installing the ES ones if I ever get a chance.

 

I'll see if I can find the BM vdo that Neo mentioned.

If I remember correctly, they took a red ITR w/ ~60K kms and had spoon 'refresh' it.
- new shocks
- new shifter rods
- spoon front lower A-arm bushing
- new engine mounts (not sure if it was OEM or spoon)

they showed a before and after pic of the engine from the side of the car. The engine was sitting lower by 1/4 to almost 1/2" w/ the old mounts .

the test drivers all reported a better, tighter feel of the car. it showed also, when the lap times improved a few seconds.

yshi - who wishes he had bought that issue

found it
June 2000 issue


now i just need to find a place that can get it for me...

 

If you can deal with the vibration, the Prothane motor mount kit is very stiff. It has inserts for the rear mount, upper passenger side mount, and a full poly piece (no insert) for the upper driver side mount. VERY stiff setup. The upper driver side mount is also adjustable in a way that you can choose from two different stiffness pieces, a street disc or a race disc. The race disc feels has hard as a frickin' hockey puck.

 

i had spoon, they were more stiffer but not as stiff as es inserts. I like them though. Acted like a stock mount only stiffer.

 

nah, u miss out the distributor.

 

Yoshi:


Yup yup yup! That's da one.

Find me a server and I'll upload the mpg ~ 600mb.

 

Gotta go with sgT on this one...ES mounts make a world of difference at a substantial price difference.

Vibration isn't so bad to the point you can't see out of your mirrors, but you do get a more "direct driving feel".

For you nutso types, the addition of the Prothane upper kit ought to shake your fillings right out.

Both can be had for much less than the Mugen pieces...

-Geo

 

Here is a clip to the vid I am talking about.

HK Version so it has Chinese captions...although it usually has English subtitle as well. Anyway, I did the rip and someone else please do the translation?

Right Click and Save: 20mb, 1min

http://www.integra-type-racing.com/Enginemount.wmv

 

I've already got the inserts.
Now I want to try the Mugen mounts and ES inserts.

 

Are there specific inserts for the Type R, or are they the same as the rest of the line??

 

Same as the civics/integras of that year/model range, I do believe.

 

http://www.spoon.jp or http://www.spoon-sports.com

Spoon's MTGs are about 30-40% stiffer. If you use them for DRAG , I don't think you'll notice too much difference but during ON/OFF TB response or brake/turn/acceleration the difference is pretty noticeable.

 

Translation: The two girls in the beginning said "fresh"

 

I can understand that the ES/Prothane polys don't damp vibration like high-durometer rubber. I want to be able to the rear view mirror. ;-)

AJ PwR, are you advocating Spoon b/c you've tried Mugen and broken them? Could you be more specific about driving conditions, etc.? It looks like you're a Spoon distributor...

TIA.