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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 04:47 AM
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I apologize if this has been covered before, but I searched and didn't come up with much.

I've heard of S2000 owners gutting the cats on stock exhaust. This is obviously not much more than a sound mod, because you're not going to gain a significant amount of power by freeing up such a little amount of air flow.

I'm really interested in a sound clip / video of a gutted cats with stock exhaust to see if it's something I'd like. I honestly don't see myself putting aftermarket exhaust on my S2000 for the simple facts of it's my daily driver and I simply don't like the sound of four-cylinder hondas with exhaust (no offense to anyone here.) However, if gutting the cats produces an agressive, yet subtle (read: quiet) sound out of the stock exhaust, it may be something I look into doing.

For those of you that have performed this, did you experience any negative side-effects?

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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 04:49 AM
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The S2000 doesnt sound like your stereo typical four cylinder Honda. Gutting the cat with the stock mufflers will make it sound like ***.

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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 05:59 AM
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stereo topical
LOL!


on a side note, there are some clips on YouTube, IIRC, of some 2004+ S2k's that had gutted/high-flow cats and removed resonators. There was a slight change in exhaust note and loudness.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 06:54 AM
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theoretically wouldnt it serve as the same purpose compared to a test pipe???
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:19 AM
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Actually, a test pipe will net you some very decent gains for the price. The S2000 responds very differently to mods over other similar setups, like a b-swaped civic. I will say your much better off removing your cat and keeping it and just spending the 100$ on a test pipe. You can sell the S2000 cat for MUCH more then you can a test pipe.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:20 AM
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What elements of the exhaust does the test pipe remove? Just the cat? Thank you.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 08:11 AM
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What elements of the exhaust does the test pipe remove? Just the cat? Thank you.
yes. test pipes are a direct replacement for the cat.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 08:32 AM
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I may spend the ~$100 just to see how this sounds. If it gives me the sound I'm looking for, I'll be quite happy.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 08:57 AM
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Yeah, just the cat. You will want to pick up one or two defoulers to fool your factory ECU.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-s2000-5/official-s2000-how-diy-2162522/
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 09:02 AM
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Excellent! All I need now is someone who's done it before, so I can hear what it sounds like.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JTStreet
I apologize if this has been covered before, but I searched and didn't come up with much.

I've heard of S2000 owners gutting the cats on stock exhaust. This is obviously not much more than a sound mod, because you're not going to gain a significant amount of power by freeing up such a little amount of air flow.

I'm really interested in a sound clip / video of a gutted cats with stock exhaust to see if it's something I'd like. I honestly don't see myself putting aftermarket exhaust on my S2000 for the simple facts of it's my daily driver and I simply don't like the sound of four-cylinder hondas with exhaust (no offense to anyone here.) However, if gutting the cats produces an agressive, yet subtle (read: quiet) sound out of the stock exhaust, it may be something I look into doing.

For those of you that have performed this, did you experience any negative side-effects?

Thanks in advance.
get yourself a high flow cat, since a test pipe is illegal, waste of money, hurts environment, makes exhaust smell bad, and doesn't gain any more power than a high flow cat.

and get yourself an apexi ws2 exhaust/muffler, whatever is available for your s2000. It will give you a low deep tone and never gets high pitched/raspy.

and to help out with low deep tones, get yourself a short air intake.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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get yourself a high flow cat, since a test pipe is illegal, waste of money, hurts environment, makes exhaust smell bad, and doesn't gain any more power than a high flow cat.

and get yourself an apexi ws2 exhaust/muffler, whatever is available for your s2000. It will give you a low deep tone and never gets high pitched/raspy.

and to help out with low deep tones, get yourself a short air intake.
Any car hurts the envioronment, Test pipes are NOT 100% illegal, DEF not a waste of money since hi-flow cats cost more than test pipes.

I would beg to differ that a 70mm test pipe offers the same minimal, if any power gains that a hi-flow cat does.

Also, the WS2 exhaust is coated mild steel aside from the muffler. get the WS2, HKS Hi-power, Tanabe Super Hyper, or Neuspeed if you want a quiet S. Mine is quiet with the J's 70RS but i think the turbo helps out a little bit with that
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 12:18 PM
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I read the title, and had flashbacks of thailand.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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Any car hurts the envioronment, Test pipes are NOT 100% illegal, DEF not a waste of money since hi-flow cats cost more than test pipes.

I would beg to differ that a 70mm test pipe offers the same minimal, if any power gains that a hi-flow cat does.

Also, the WS2 exhaust is coated mild steel aside from the muffler. get the WS2, HKS Hi-power, Tanabe Super Hyper, or Neuspeed if you want a quiet S. Mine is quiet with the J's 70RS but i think the turbo helps out a little bit with that
I guess what I'm trying to say is I want a "stock" like noise level (not much louder than stock) with a more aggressive tone. Sorry if that doesn't make sense.

Not having a cat won't be a problem; South Carolina does not have inspections, and I don't believe there are any laws enforcing the use of a catalytic converter. I could be totally off on that, though.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 02:53 PM
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Stock AP2 w/ removed resonators

listen to that.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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another s2k w/out resonators on stock exhaust

ap1 with stock exhaust, berk tp and removed resonator

finally, one with no resonator under load
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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After hearing those videos, I don't believe I'm going to go this route. Definitely not the sound I was going for.


Okay, IMHO, it sounds like crap. Hehe.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 04:17 PM
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glad i could help lol

i had considered doing the same thing you wanted to; but i decided against it.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 04:43 PM
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Those videos are with NO RESONATOR! Were talking about removing the cat and keeping the resonators. There is a huge difference there!
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by modacar
Any car hurts the envioronment, Test pipes are NOT 100% illegal, DEF not a waste of money since hi-flow cats cost more than test pipes.

I would beg to differ that a 70mm test pipe offers the same minimal, if any power gains that a hi-flow cat does.

Also, the WS2 exhaust is coated mild steel aside from the muffler. get the WS2, HKS Hi-power, Tanabe Super Hyper, or Neuspeed if you want a quiet S. Mine is quiet with the J's 70RS but i think the turbo helps out a little bit with that
removing a cat from a car is illegal. You can replace a cat, but not remove it.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 04:57 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjj4dGOjQWk
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 05:29 AM
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ive heard plenty of videos on youtube on s2ks with stock exhaust and only a testpipe. in my opinion it sounds like a Z. the testpipe will also cut out the drone during highway cruising. also bumps up the power nicely over stock cat. could be worth a shot for you i would almost bet you would like the sound of a testpipe on your stock exhaust just make sure you leave the resonator on your exhaust.

o btw a berk testpipe has an O2 fix built in. ive had mine on for 6 months with no cels
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 05:31 AM
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Those videos are with NO RESONATOR! Were talking about removing the cat and keeping the resonators. There is a huge difference there!
This is true. I think I may purchase a test pipe and see how it sounds without the cats (but keeping the resonators) before I spend money on a nice, quiet (expensive) exhaust system.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 05:52 AM
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get yourself a high flow cat, since a test pipe is illegal, waste of money, hurts environment, makes exhaust smell bad, and doesn't gain any more power than a high flow cat.

and get yourself an apexi ws2 exhaust/muffler, whatever is available for your s2000. It will give you a low deep tone and never gets high pitched/raspy.

and to help out with low deep tones, get yourself a short air intake.
you obviously dont own an S... I can tell by your terrible response... you most likely own a civic since a WS2 exhaust is the cheapest name brand exhaust you can buy... and it didnt help with the short ram intake... cuz u make a lot of power sucking in hot air... honestly man, stay in the civic forum, cuz ur just taking up space... a test pipe for our cars is not a waste of money, and it will flow better than a HFC... berk even admits it...

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removing a cat from a car is illegal. You can replace a cat, but not remove it.
thanks captain obvious...
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