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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 04:59 AM
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hey guys new to the site, and hopefully will get a ef hatch with a b16a soon.

my question is that, what oil filter do i buy for it?
i did search a bit, but came up with zero answers. thanks
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 05:55 AM
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Here are oil filter part numbers for CRX:
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OEM - A6029-OES-A6000 or 15400-P0H-305
STP - S2808
FRAM - PH6811
K&N - HP-1004
MOBIL - M1-104
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 06:17 AM
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or go to the honda dealership and get a oil filter for a 99-00 civic si.
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by crxfreak1117
or go to the honda dealership and get a oil filter for a 99-00 civic si.
I always go with oem too.
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 08:58 AM
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i use k&n filter's myself. probably does the same thing as stock but ehh...
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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thanx for answering my question, i think i will go for the oem
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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All Honda OEM filters have the same thread and seal with very few exceptions. Basically anything 88-current, S2k is larger physically, Insight is smaller physically. All of them work. I use S2k filters to get more filtering area.

1g Legend is different, as is one other 'recent' design, but I can't remember what it is.
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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Here is my rule of thumb: For every day normal use, go with larger oil filter to get more filtering capacity. For racing only purposes, go with smaller oil filter to reduce the heat build up inside the filter which may cause the filtering material to collapse and fail.
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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dude, it's simple.

look up at your parts store in the oil/air filter book (in the filter section) for 1989 crx sir, which has the b16a motor and go from there. as for mine i got a gsr, which is from the 1996 acura integra gsr.

just look dat up or tell the store guy too help u look it up :D
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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Here is my rule of thumb: For every day normal use, go with larger oil filter to get more filtering capacity. For racing only purposes, go with smaller oil filter to reduce the heat build up inside the filter which may cause the filtering material to collapse and fail.
The oil is the same temperature, no matter what size filter it is.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by xci_ed6
The oil is the same temperature, no matter what size filter it is.
Fill two different size of glass with hot water and let them seat for awhile. The water in the smaller glass will cool down faster because it has less "heat build up" inside of it.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by CW-ITR
Fill two different size of glass with hot water and let them seat for awhile. The water in the smaller glass will cool down faster because it has less "heat build up" inside of it.
The oil doesn't sit in the oil filter though, it passes through.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ~sp33~
The oil doesn't sit in the oil filter though, it passes through.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by xci_ed6
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ~sp33~
The oil doesn't sit in the oil filter though, it passes through.
You got it; Just like how the coolant in radiator work. If you bring less/small amount of coolant/water through a given point, it cool down faster.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 07:59 AM
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Wow, just wow.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 08:06 AM
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You got it; Just like how the coolant in radiator work. If you bring less/small amount of coolant/water through a given point, it cool down faster.
Ummm... Either your being sarcastic or I have no idea what your talking about. Assuming your using the radiator as an example though, i don't see any cooling fins or direct air circulation on the oil filter to 'cool' it down. Perhaps you assume the oil filter just holds a cup full of oil at a time, and waits for it to cool down before passing it back through the engine? For some reason i don't see this happening when it's attached to the back of the engine block.

Please someone prove me wrong, I'm not an oil filter technician though common sense seems to support me.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 08:17 AM
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I thought you put a smaller filter on a race engine to bump up oil pressure slightly.

This thread is just... WOW.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 08:26 AM
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[quote=4drEF;37096943]I thought you put a smaller filter on a race engine to bump up oil pressure slightly.

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i was thinking the same thing too. plus i thought that the smaller one would expand less when it's hot(or was it the other way around) cause of the size
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 09:04 AM
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You got it; Just like how the coolant in radiator work. If you bring less/small amount of coolant/water through a given point, it cool down faster.
Your thing with 2 glasses of water... dude. No. That's not how it works. That's like saying take all the gallons of water out of your car and just add 1 cup back in. In your theory just one cup of water would cool the engine, but obviously it doesn't. Heat transfer doesn't work like that.

If the water doesn't spend enough time in the radiator then it doesn't have time to cool down. If your radiator is too small then the water won't cool down enough by the time it makes it all the way through. also, water flow is regulated by the thermostat. You have low rpm cooling problems when you remove the thermostat - again - because the water doesn't sit in the radiator long enough.

Smaller is WORSE for cooling. You want lots of cold surface area to contact the hot fluid. you know those fake plastic ice cubes? If you put one of those in a galss of water it will be WORSE cooling than in you used 10 of them. 10 provides WAY more cold surface area.

Oil is continuous flow and doesn't have anything like a thermostat. The filter is there... to FILTER. It doesn't provide much cooling at all especially since it's located on the back of the engine and above the exhaust. I don't see much cool air flowing over that thing even if you put heat sinks on it. You would have to add an external oil cooler (looks like a mini radiator) if you needed to cool your oil. You better know what you are doing at that point because there is an optimum range for oil temperature (something like 180~200 degrees) so it can be warmed up to flow well.

EDIT: on some Honda engines you can find a sandwich adapter thing on the oil filter. It hooks up to the water system. This is an oil heater... water heats up faster in cold weather conditions and the water in the sandwich adaptor thing helps heat up the oil.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 4drEF
EDIT: on some Honda engines you can find a sandwich adapter thing on the oil filter. It hooks up to the water system. This is an oil heater... water heats up faster in cold weather conditions and the water in the sandwich adaptor thing helps heat up the oil.
That is an oil cooler.

Simple answer: The oil pump is a positive displacement pump, so RPM determines oil flow.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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I see I wrote it wrong.
The sandwich adaptor thing... this #17 thing

is a cooler, but a heater too. It doesn't disapte a ton of heat and can only cool the oil off to engine water temperature level - so it's not a fantastic cooler.

An oil cooler you might find in race applications looks like this -
https://honda-tech.com/forums/performance-45/mfactory-blowout-sale-1659574/




Originally Posted by xci_ed6
That is an oil cooler.

Simple answer: The oil pump is a positive displacement pump, so RPM determines oil flow.
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