1991 Ef hatch dies when i give it gas???

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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 06:58 PM
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Default 1991 Ef hatch dies when i give it gas???

ok so i just got a 1991 ef hatch, had a blown head gasket we changed that, i drove it home normally when you step on the gas the car goes faster right??? well this one doesnt it like it want to die sometimes makes no sense like i have to find the sweet spot please help me
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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did it do it after you swapped the gasket, check your timing to be sure that its correct.
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 07:43 PM
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wen i put the belt back on it was like one notch away from the mark i made would that be y?
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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yes.
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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really thats why you think???? i will try to put it on that notch tommoorw when i get off work but i couldnt get it on when i put it on thats why it not on there
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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alrite lisen closely this is like 90% of the time this happens you wireing harness to your ecu is probly the wrong one so if the engine has ever been swaped you ganna have to get the rite one. and i dont think its exspensize just a bitch to do. good luck im never wrong but im not always rite . so look into this man
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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im like 99% sure this is the original motor so i dont think its that but i will look into it any other help would be appreciated
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by boostedefhatch
wen i put the belt back on it was like one notch away from the mark i made would that be y?
Set the timing correctly before you post in this thread again.
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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Set the timing correctly before you post in this thread again.
wow you dont have to be such an *******!! im just lookin for help not people who dont want to help me, but yes i will try to re set it tomorrow
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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could be the fuel pump too. but id say its timing
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 08:46 PM
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could be the fuel pump too. but id say its timing
alrighty then i will continue to fix that tomorrow as planned lol, any advise on getting it on the spot i marked thats y its not there now it was super tight
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best way to do it is get it tdc and have the up mark in the up direction and the two lines on the cam gear are flush with the head where the valve cover meets the head
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 09:25 PM
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best way to do it is get it tdc and have the up mark in the up direction and the two lines on the cam gear are flush with the head where the valve cover meets the head
thats what i did and its still !!!super!!! tight
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alrite lisen closely this is like 90% of the time this happens you wireing harness to your ecu is probly the wrong one so if the engine has ever been swaped you ganna have to get the rite one. and i dont think its exspensize just a bitch to do. good luck im never wrong but im not always rite . so look into this man
WTF?????!!!!!



yeah try to correct the timing first see if that cures the problem...also when you did the head gasket did you remove the harness from the intake, make sure you got the correct plug on the tps.
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 09:34 PM
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WTF?????!!!!!



yeah try to correct the timing first see if that cures the problem...also when you did the head gasket did you remove the harness from the intake, make sure you got the correct plug on the tps.
i upluged one hose from the IM and thats it other than that i just straight unbolted the whole intake manifold didnt want to unhook every sensor
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 06:45 AM
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timing, hands down. most likely anyways. i just had this issue with mine.
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by remix rick
alrite lisen closely this is like 90% of the time this happens you wireing harness to your ecu is probly the wrong one so if the engine has ever been swaped you ganna have to get the rite one. and i dont think its exspensize just a bitch to do. good luck im never wrong but im not always rite . so look into this man
Listen closely? What is this, a secret?
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 08:21 AM
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wow you dont have to be such an *******!! im just lookin for help not people who dont want to help me, but yes i will try to re set it tomorrow
The reason he is being an "*******" (he isn't being one in my opinion), is because you are asking a question that you already know the answer to. Your timing is off a notch. Your cams are kept in sync with your crankshaft by one thing -- the timing belt. As I'm sure you can imagine, when your valves are not opening at the right times, there will be problems. Take off the belt, set both the crank and cam at TDC and then put the belt back on without moving anything. At this point, use a socket to turn the crank a couple times and then make sure that the cam and crank still reach TDC at the same time. I'm not sure what engine you have but you have to loosen the adjustable idler puller to get some slack to put the belt on properly. If you get your timing set right and still have a problem, then it is time to inquire further. Until then, you are only wasting time.
Good luck.
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Black4thgenEF
The reason he is being an "*******" (he isn't being one in my opinion), is because you are asking a question that you already know the answer to. Your timing is off a notch. Your cams are kept in sync with your crankshaft by one thing -- the timing belt. As I'm sure you can imagine, when your valves are not opening at the right times, there will be problems. Take off the belt, set both the crank and cam at TDC and then put the belt back on without moving anything. At this point, use a socket to turn the crank a couple times and then make sure that the cam and crank still reach TDC at the same time. I'm not sure what engine you have but you have to loosen the adjustable idler puller to get some slack to put the belt on properly. If you get your timing set right and still have a problem, then it is time to inquire further. Until then, you are only wasting time.
Good luck.
ok so i pulled the belt off and turn the camshaft sprocket by hand till it lined up with the mark on my belt i made before i pulled it off now it idles wiered kinda bumpy??? but engine sounds fine
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 06:00 PM
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I had the same problem with my hatch. I thought it was timing belt too but that wasn't it. It turned out to be the fuel filter. It was all clogged up with gunk. So that's another thing to look into... Good luck man!
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 06:05 PM
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why are you lining it up with a mark you made?? honda makes marks for to use. if you do not know how a timing belt should be installed corectly, you need to do a search and find out how to do it, before you destroy your engine by setting the timing wrong.
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 06:53 PM
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why are you lining it up with a mark you made?? honda makes marks for to use. if you do not know how a timing belt should be installed corectly, you need to do a search and find out how to do it, before you destroy your engine by setting the timing wrong.
well lets see i set it to tdc using the mark on the crank shaft pully and the up on the cam gear, there was NOT A SINGLE MARK OR DASH ON THE BELT ITS SELF!!!!
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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There doesn't need to be. Once the crank pulley is lined up, with the cam gear lined up with the head, it doesn't matter how your belt is placed, your engine is at TDC.

If your going to get pissy over people trying to help you, then find it out yourself.
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 07:34 PM
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There doesn't need to be. Once the crank pulley is lined up, with the cam gear lined up with the head, it doesn't matter how your belt is placed, your engine is at TDC.

If your going to get pissy over people trying to help you, then find it out yourself.
yes. a mark on the belt itself means nothing.

OP, do you have a timing light?
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dcvt16
yes. a mark on the belt itself means nothing.

OP, do you have a timing light?
no i dont believe so im not being pissy, i just want my car to run good sorry! but i had my motor at tdc when i slid the belt off i made a mark on it and the cam gear for my reference ok? and when i put it back on it was like three notches away form my mar, so today i slid the belt off and turned the cam gear down to lign up with my mark, now when i put it at tdc with my crank line up the cam gear is not a tdc help me
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