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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 06:18 PM
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hey everyone.
so i picked up an ap2 at an auction for cheap and i am trying to start it but it wont start. it turns over but wont turn on. i checked to see if i had spark on each coil and it turns out i do. im pretty sure im getting fuel because when i take out the spark plug it drips fuel. so now i dont know what to do. any help is appreciated. thanks
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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Might could be why the thing was cheap at an auction.

Hate to say, but it could be a bajillion different things. And since you probably don't have any history on the car, it's going to make diagnosis really tough on the internet.

But, even though it is turning over, put a battery booster on and try it again.

Otherwise: check compression; check grounds; check the ecu wiring harness...make sure no one hacked it up from installing a piggy-back etc.

Get an OBDII reader and see what it says as you try to turn the car over.
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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do u think the timing might be off?
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 04:20 AM
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The key might not be programed, I have an in programed key and I tried to use it and it will just turn over but wont start.
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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if the key is not programed, what exactly is disabled? the fuel pump?
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by crave13k
if the key is not programed, what exactly is disabled? the fuel pump?
no idea.
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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no theres actually a rolling code that has to match everytime you turn the key. if the key is not programmed it the ecu won't recognize it. almost like trying to start a car with a screwdriver.

it could be a bunch of things, but the fact that you got fuel and sparks tells me the key is fine. do a compression test and a fuel pressure test... good luck!!
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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The timing might be off if someone had the head off and installed the cams 180 degrees out. But no way to know without knowing the history of the car.
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 02:30 PM
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if the green immolilzer key on the cluster stays blinking, the key is not programmed to the ecu. you will need to get it programmed.
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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hey guys bad news. i did a compression test and i got 40 all accross. sux right. what do u guys think it is?
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 04:00 PM
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is this weird? the engine only have 33k miles on it. its been sitting for like 5 months though...
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 02:02 PM
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Do a leak down test so you can see if it is valves or rings. If it's been sitting for a long time, the rings may have frozen...but usually that takes longer than 5 months.
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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well i took off my valve cover today and it my timing is off. im gonna continue tomorrow. i just hope none of the valves are bent.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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Is there a ECU in the car?
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 12:52 PM
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after fixing the timing i finally got my car to start. but now i have a weird noise when i accelerate. like if theres something jumping around inside. lol.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 01:01 PM
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might be a valve tap?
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 01:31 PM
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do a compression test, if you have a valve issue you might be able to pinpoint it with low compression and a leak test.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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so i turned the car back on and after accelerating lightly a few times the noise went away but now the car wont rev past 4k. like if it has a rev limiter. im gonna do a compression test tomorrow.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 11:59 PM
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chances are you have several bent valves. if u have issues w/ the cam/crank sensors, the ecu may limit the rpms to that 4k limiter ur experiencing.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 01:03 PM
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i checked to codes and its giving me a p0339 crank position sensor? what does this mean?
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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Default Re: s2k wont start.

Originally Posted by crave13k
i checked to codes and its giving me a p0339 crank position sensor? what does this mean?
come on now... take a wild guess as to what that may be...

it could be a faulty sensor, connector or wiring... is the ckp sensor...

http://alldatapro.com/alldata/PRO~V1...7175/115134232
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 01:28 PM
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ok so i just did a compression test and it goes as follows.
cyl#1 ~230
cyl#2 `~237
cyl#3 ~240
cyl#4 ~237

what do u guys think?
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 01:38 PM
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your compression is fine, so all you need to worry about is the ckp sensor. try to swap it and see what happens... if you have a friend with a s2k just borrow his for a minute and give it a try.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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yeah i have a friend who has one. what do u think the clinging noise could be?
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by crave13k
yeah i have a friend who has one. what do u think the clinging noise could be?
i thought the noise went away...
i'm not exactly sure it could be many many things... did you ever take off the valve cover, i really didn't read much of what you have done. if you did, did you see anything loose or misaligned?

the chain tensioner could be an issue if it's not pressurizing properlly... maybe that but its really hard to tell over the web... can you get a vid???

the pic has the cam chain tensioner on the botton left corner btw.
http://alldatapro.com/alldata/PRO~V1...5093/117166890
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