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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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Hi,
I noticed my plug leaking a while ago, so I went ahead and bought oil, filter and an aluminum crush washer.
When I removed the plug, it had a rubber gasket a nylon washer and an aluminum one also. I was pretty confused. I figured ths was why it was leaking.
I put the aluminum one on, and it still drips.
Am I suppose to use an aluminum or vinyl washer?
Maybe I need to torque it down more?
Any ideas
I think the tq setting is 30, I don't have a torque wrench so I have no idea if it's set to torque or not. And I'm afraid to strip it
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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Look at the plug itself, Do the threads look cross threaded. Maybe someone before you stripped it so they used all those washer to try and seal it.
Pick up another drain plug and only use the aluminum washers honda sells. They are like 20 cents each. I bought a whole bag last time i ordered a part online. I change them at every oil change so no leaky mess under there.
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 07:50 PM
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Advance sells the bolt for like 2 bucks. Pick that up and some honda crush washers. Thats all u need...When you tighten it just do it with a normal wrench, dont try to over tighten it.
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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I bought a bag of new honda crush washers, When I tighten it there's not really much resistance, whats the torque setting?
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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Thats because either the bolt is cross threaded or your pan is thus causing your leak.
The torque setting is hand tight. I have been doing this for 8 years and never stripped that oil pan drain plug. Hand tight man, you will eventually get the FEEL of hand tight.
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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Hmm, I hope it's not cross threaded, i will check it tomorrow. Because the resistance does increase a little bit
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 08:12 PM
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Yes, then it lets go and gets loose? LOL, thats cross threaded but you can fix it by cheating. Use teflon tape and tighten, will increase tension and stop the leaks. Not the right way, but it will work.
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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teflon tape! That sounds good
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 08:08 AM
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Teflon Tape sounds like a bad idea.

I went to home depot and bought a rubber washer and put that in between the pan and the bolt. Problem solved.
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 10:01 AM
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Looked at it today, I don't want to tighten it anymore beause like I said the resistance doesn't build
What's strange is the threads are not stripped on neither bolt or pan. Someone suggested I go to an oil shop, and they can fix it with a helicoil
And that it could be the plug that is weaker than the pan. I have a magnetic blox plug

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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by honda.lioness
33 ft-lbs. This is a lot more than hand tight. Harbor Freight's $20 torque wrenches are probably better than guesstimating. Plenty of free online shop manuals and/or owner's manuals confirm this.

Normally only the Honda OEM crush washer and bolt are needed.

Threads in the pan may be stripped, typically requiring a new (or carefully checked junkyard) oil pan. You can try other drain bolts but I would not be optimistic.

Im the manager at a quaker state oil change shop and i do the lowers (drain the oil, change the filter, grease, check diffs/t-case) on about 100-150 cars a week... a decent amount of them hondas and you most deffinitly do not NEED an OEM honda drain plug OR crush-washer. thats a bunch of crap. we have both alluminum crush washers and double thick nylon gaskets and either one works absolutly fine! not even a trace of oil. we also have replacement plugs (not "OEM Honda") and those work great too.

to the OP... try to got your hands on a tap and carefully run it through the threads in the pan... you will know the condition of the threads in the pan by the way the tap threads in. once you do that get a brand new plug (i know it sucks, cause you have a mag. one) and try that.

one more thing just throwin it out there but if worst come to worst there are things called "safety plugs" wich are made for oil pans with COMPLETELY jacked up threads

either way... good luck to ya
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by honda.lioness
Read the post. It says "normally." Other washer set ups and drain plugs may work. But in my experience and from much reading, many folks mess around a long time trying to get a seal on the drain plug using xyz washers, abc aftermarket plug, and this-or-that fix. The most reliable fix is replace the pan and/or plug with OEM. Other fixes may work, but this is the one a person can count on.

OTOH a person with limited time and money understandably may want to try some of the other fixes. Just do not be surprised if they do not work.
If the threads on your pan and plug are fine then yeah it works... but how can an aluminum washer posibly have a better success rate then a nylon gasket? the nylon gaskets take less torque to seal then the alluminum washers wich results in less wear and tear on the threads resulting in stripped or stretched threads. mabe if you used one once youd understand the reasons I'm arguing my point. its is next to imposible to strip threads with them because you have room to overtorque where as with an aluminum crush washer, once its tight you have mabe a 1/4 turn and then threads are toast
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