i went to the drag strip the other nite and basically sucked! everything happened so quickly when you get up to the line, my friends didn't tell me anything about the light thinking it would be funny. i got up to the tree thinking it was gonna be like the video games and was all messed up. im wondering wat is a speed that you need to be around to hit 12 sec. i know it all depends on your 60 ft. ect. but just curious. i was running 14.1 at 105mph. i was having horrible starts and not getting traction. here's my set up.

98 EK fully gutted interior except for the dash.
b18C with HKS t2535 at 10psi
tires are 15" falken azenis
tein flex coilovers
HKS exhaust with no cat.

car makes 290whp 180 tq Daily Driven and
305whp 185 tq max.

i know it's all driver error at this point, but please give me some input and what psi i should run in my tires thanks

 

You're running slicks right?
If so what size are they?

 

Its says he is running Falken Azenis so no, I dont think he is running slicks lol but he needs to get some for sure, especially with that kinda power. Street tires wont hold up very well especially with someone who is new to drag racing....

 

well, i think thats a trap that should be yielding somewhere in the 13's....so slicks might do it.

 

try to lower the tire pressure. i went 13.7@109 with my turbo gsr[7lbs] db7 on firestone[20psi tire pressure].

practice launching. try 3500-4000rpm launch, get 2step, or slicks.

 

try slicks. We use 22" M/T slicks 10psi on a stock ls motor. We were running 12.7@106 all day long.

 

Hahaha, I read that post 4 times looking if he put anything about what tires he were running, and I still somehow missed it.

But yes, I would look into getting some 22" slicks for your car, that would make a big difference

 

i did a 12.6 @ 108mph in my crx, 7psi on t3/t4 22x8x13" slicks at 8psi, and i was running ls trans no lsd, stock gsr motor. 1.7 60ft. no spinning at all really, except in first a bit.

 

with your assumed curb weight, 2000 lbs
and say 300 whp, your trapspeed should be much higher than 105

however, a 105 trapspeed with good traction is already a 12 second run.


some basic tips:
1. on a sportsman light, leave on the last yellow. do not wait for green.
2. with Azenis, bring your tire pressure down to around 18-20psi and spool your turbo launch around 3-5k rpm.
3. get your 60ft time down to 2.1 or less
4. be very careful on the azenis when launching. the sidewalls are pretty stiff, and can lead to wheel hop which then breaks axles. make sure you slide the clutch out and dont just drop it if you are starting out and don't want to break parts.

question: street driving your car do you get traction is 1st or second at all? maybe you want to try BFG drag radials. I run them on the street and they have been a godsend as long as you don't try to race in a canyon or make high speed turns.

 

thanks for your help fellas. i did a second run and it was a little better. i did have a little more time and launched at 4k rpm and dumped the clutch. i also had 20psi tire pressure and it felt like i wasn't grabbing traction and spun right through 1st gear. i do have an extra set of slicks(used) i got from a buddy but it's exspensive to have an extra set of 5 lug wheels. still got a 14sec. though

 

i think a gutted EK weighs in at 2500lbs.

 

i get traction in 1st and 2nd. and i have no problems with them when i autocross, they handle great.

 

what tranny you have?
what engine management system?

 

type r

 

azenis work decent start at 10 and if u want a LITTLE more traction go down. but i wouldnt go no more than 7-6lbs IMO good luck tho

 

get the 24.5 slicks due gear vs speed
you'll be fine or 23's but you definitely need slicks man..

 

so basically everyone is saying here that im gonna be in the 13's until i get slicks?

 

No it doesnt. Is your EK a coupe or HB? I have a 93 integra HB and I'm at 2480 with driver, FULL INTERIOR, no PS/AC, CF hood, no spare,jack etc etc. fully gutted EK HB's weight about 2000lbs.

If you have a timeslip, don't look at your final 1/4 time, look at the other info. It's more important than just the final number as it tells you where you are weak. two import things to look at are the 60ft and the final trap speed.

w/ trapspeed you can estimate power to weight ratio, thereby really calculating how much hp you are putting down. I don't care if your dyno says you have 300whp, a 105 trapspeed means you def. are not using all of it by the end of the 1/4. so you may have it, but its being eaten up by traction problems, or your gearing isn't working for you. Or your dyno just reads high.

60ft tells you how much more potential you have to lower your ET. if you are hitting 2.0, 2.1 60ft times, thats really dang good for azenis, and means you are launching as good as you can.. so what ever et you are getting, improving your launch wont net you drastic gains. however if you are hitting 2.4-2.7's you know there's at least .5-1 second in improvements to be made.


I agree, most likely you can get 13's until you get traction. I might be wrong, it all depends on how your numbers look now. A .1 reduction in 60ft time is roughly .2 off your final ET. NA guys @ 2300lbs with slicks run a 1.6-1.8 60ft. and are hitting 12.2 with a 105 trapspeed. boosted guys will trap over 110-115 easy

so what is your 60ft time? 2.5? higher?? the best i've ever seen on azenis was a 2.2 in a 2500 lb car, best I ever did was 2.4 60ft with a stock ITR motor on azenis.

 

slicks, traction bars, the rights suspension setup and im assuming your cars tuned so just get some driving lessons or something......go to a back street and beat on that car until u feel u got the launching down, local streetraces dont hurt neither, once your moneys involved itll bring the driver out of u lol

 

hell i run a 104 mph with a totally stock b18cR in my egcoupe
ran 114 with just a 50 shot (195/55/15 yoko advan's at 25psi) at an unprepped track (2.2-2.4 60fts)

with 300+whp you should easy 12's. hell, with the 50 shot i ran close to a 12 (~210-220 whp).

your not making 300+whp or your lifting at the end of the track

 

fully loaded but no a/c or p/s (spare tire/jack, etc, plus some other **** on the floor in the back and my fat ***) weighs 2550. so that outs the car around 2300.

 

i really think he is i am just a little over 300whp in my integra and i went to the track and was running 13.8 i did that before when i was just a stright ls on 7 pounds i was running a 13.8 so i make alot more power now but just cant put it down traction is a big deal and plays a huge part he needs to work on his 60ft i mean hell i was running high 13. at 112 mph all seasons suck

 

i think your dyno reads wayyy high... when i was on 10psi i made 321whp and trapped 113-115mph in a full weight 1994 DC2 about 2700lbs.... i went 12.8 on that power level ON STREET TIRES...best up to date is 12.3@119 <--Shifting into 5th on street tires... i dont think the azenies are good for Drag racing...they are ok but i have personally had better luck with my 205/50/15 Nitto Neogens...i have cut 1.98 60ft's on them but i average 2.04-2.10...

Your power is definetly off...lets just say your car weighs "2700lbs" and you trapped 105 youd have 243whp... its one thing to be a little bit off like 10-15whp...but you are off by 50+whp...

 

Unless you magically figure out how to make 300 whp hook without atleast a set of drag radials, yes...

You trap speed will probably go up 3-4 mph once you get a set of slicks and get more traction. And you'll be set for 12's.

 

I wish my ek wieghed 2000lb mines 2560 single cam in it and a lot of light **** in it carbon this and that super light seats and i weigh 170! My car made 230whp went 13.2 at 106 on some 225bfg drag radials. Get some good tires slicks would be best and rev that bitch up and slip the clutch off the line. With some practice u shouldnt have any problems getting in the 12s.