I understand you have to lock it in place however when its locked in place is the mark on the gear supposed to be facing any way ?

Also i changed the seal on the rear balance shaft, how do i know the shaft itself is positioned correctly ?

 

dont even worry about the balance shafts. take the belt off and get a balance shaft seal retainer from honda and call it a day. the balance shafts actually arent needed.


they are and they arent.

they are: because like everyone will say, honda put them in there for a reason. to cancel out extra vibrations the motor causes. but guess what? the B16 and B18 motors dont have them. and they rev higher than the F and H series motors.

they arent: ive taken them off of all three of the cb7s(F22a1 motors) and they all arent affected in a negative way afterwards. the motor revved freeer, you gain a bit of HP from taken them off, and there arent any extra vibrations after you take them off or take the belt off.

 

There is a mark on the pulley that will align with a casting boss on the block;
Also you can set the gear when installing the unit by the notch in the pulley flange.

 

You are a clown. DOnt ever give tech advice if you dont know what the hell youre talking about please....

The balance shafts DO make a difference and Honda did put them there for a reason... The Accord was aimed as a comfy cruising sedan... The BSs eliminate a harmonic buzz around 3k. There is a noticable difference around 3k without them due to the motors physical characteristics (heavy reciprocating assembly), harmonics, and R/S all playing with big displacement. You might not notice it if you have a loud gay *** exhaust with a Fart can on it...

B series dont need them for lack of issues with the aforementioned . Theyre small motors and DONT need them for those reasons


I dont run them:



and DEFINATELY notice a difference. Truth that they free up some rotational mass and free up a FEW ponies, but if someone is looking for the stock ride characteristics... They will notice it...

Truth though that you just have to cut the belt if you are THAT desperate for 5HP... In a stock motored Accord, I wouldnt be. I deleted mine for oil pressure and as its a solid mounted car anyways, a Bit of buzz at 3k isnt going to kill me.

 

thats funny. because up until 2 days ago, the 3 accords ive done that to all had stock exhaust. and i have a REAL good ear when it comes to motor. especially when it comes to hearing sounds from it that its NOT supposed to be making. ALL 3 accords ive done it too. ALL 3 accords had no problem. and i revved to 3k on a regular basis. majority of the time i had my CD player off so i could hear any difference in the engine sound.


now had i known he had a stock accord and wanted to just know about that, i wouldnt have said that and would have told him the right way to go about setting the balance shaft gears right. but since ive yet to see a stock car up here, i figured he might some performance info about it.


so next time before you call someone an idiot, fool, or clown, be sure to ask or read before you do so.

 

Well, there is a difference between, if the balencers are installed or if they are removed, the OP is worried if they are out of time, 180 out or any other direction. Both of you did not answer his question or concern. Hondadude did.

I know we are talking about a Honda here but if it were a Mitsubishi, you would have to pull a plug in the back of the block, insert an extension or screwdriver and spin the back balencer shaft until the tool fell into a slot in the balencer shaft to be sure it was timed correctly, the OP was referring to a scenario similar to this, I believe.

Any person can report any other person, for name calling, to the moderator. Points will be taken away to teach them a lesson, name calling will not or should not be tolerated on this site, since both of you did not address the issue at hand, I think a written apology is due right here on the site and an acknowledgment of said apology would be nice to see also, so shake hands like Gentlemen and lets get on to the next post.

Nice pics everyone.

 

no. indeed i did not answer it. and i do apologize for that.

i think the F22a motors have that also. either that or its for holding the timing so nothing moves while your fixing the T-belt areas.



i dont mind being called names. i can care less. just shows how immature a person can be. i offered my advice and i was call a clown for it. wow. it makes me wonder why so many people hate this site times.

 

Hate this site, I dont know any other site that gets 4000+ posts every 24 hours......

 

that may be true, but doesnt mean those people dont hate the site. lol.


but we're getting off topic:D

 

The bottom line is tyou are wrong... The ABSOLUTELY make a difference. Clown. You PROBABLY dont even understand WHY the F and Hs have them and the Bs dont... Even though I outlined it. Actually I KNOW you dont. Your post before mine proves the point


KTHXBYE

 

so two things..i have read the Kaizen Speed description on the purpose of the balance shafts and fully understand the reason they are needed in larger displacement Inline 4 motors. however, many people report little to no vibration with the soft stock motor mounts. it is my understanding that the accord mounts are softer than the prelude's. so my answer to the question is this, leave the shafts in and dont hook up the belt is one way to eliminate them, or take the shafts completely out and dissassemle the block to eliminate them. sorry this is so wordy

 

and thank you hondadude because that is exactly how to install the rear shaft gear case lol

 

Balance shafts do not cancel out vibrations they dampen them if it's someone else car I'd leave them in. If it was mine and I'm modding the vehicle I'd definitely remove them they are parts that can fail.

 

cancel/dampen... synonyms in this context