i can get this turbo(garret t4) for a hundred bucks thats from a buick grand national. can it work and should i use it? please give all advice possible.

 

it'll work...I'm not sure how efficiently. That turbo had a 4.1L v-6 spooling it in the Buick.

 

1. Do you really wanna use a used turbo?
2. do you really wanna use a turbo that old?
3. Why are you gonna cheap out on the second most important part?
4. Do you know the A/R of this turbo?
5. WHY?


They turbo on a Grand National is small....

 

The only way I would use it on anything but a homemade turbo civic is if i had it rebuilt. Like Bserious is saying please buy a turbo from this century for one of the most expensive cars honda offers. Ball bearing would be a great idea too.

 

ball bearing is over rated, Why waste the money when you could get a borg warner s366 with race cover for less then a gt42. Then the good stuff doesnt just end at it being cheap; this turbo spools faster and will out flow a gt42. Journal Bearing and Oil Cooled is the way to go....

 

that turbo will absolubtely work... DON'T listent o anybody here, they have no idea what they are talking about.

Use that turbo. it will spool like a champ. You can even use the gn injectors and fuel pump. IT HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE!!! theres a couple of australian kids runing gn turbo kits on s2000. look it up on youtube man!!!


As soon as you are ready to turn the car on and run the engine, please have a vid camera ready, i would LOVE to see the outcome!!!

 

they never said it wouldnt work! i know it would work but just like they said why would u cheap out and get a used turbo? Turbo and manifold are the most important.

 

just about any turbo will "work" but the question is how well, how much HP will you get, and when will it spool up. turbos have so many variables that they really need to be picked from scratch for each application to work as well as possible. just getting one because it's cheap doesn't mean you won't be wasting your money when it doesn't work well for your application

it's been mentioned already but the manifold and turbo itself are the two most crucial parts of the turbo kit. it's why a full-race kit will hit 400whp with 8-9 psi and other kits need to run 18-19 psi to kit the same mark. besides a stock GN turbo doesn't flow all that much air, 300-350whp and it's pushing it's efficiency, I'm assuming you want more power than that.

just keep doing what you're doing now, read, research, ask questions, and ignore people that aren't helpful. if anything try and find a good local shop and get their help too.

 

I say get the Hytech ITB, header exhaust cam setup and have a healthy N/A 280 wheel horsepower!

 

The money you spend getting 380whp NA would cost you half if not less, to make the same power forced induction.

Don't get me wrong I love NA, But it's definitely cheaper to gain power by going turbo, and I imagine that is what the OP is looking for, a really really cheap way to gain power.

Plus from what I'm hearing, we might have flying cars before Hytech starts distributing the NA kits. I know people who have waited over a year for a b series header, who eventually just cancelled their order.

 

^ 380 is a pipe dream. I believe InlinePro just broke 300 for the first time, NA. You would definitely need the 2.2L, or the 2.5L stroker, to make anywhere NEAR those figures...

John

 

Cause 380 NA whp = 380 FI whp.

 

Sorry, I didn't mean to confuse it as much as I did.

I wasn't arguing that 380 NA WHP = 380 FI WHP. 380WHP is 380WHP no matter which way you slice it. 380 NA WHP is running on the raggedy end of **** breaking real fast and parts wearing out at an exponential rate (which probably isn't possible with just the Hytech setup, you would atleast need a monster stroker kit or an engine reving as high as a Formula 1 engine). Where 380 FI WHP is much easily attainable for a fraction of the cost with plenty of room to make more power.

I was just doing a cost comparisson.

 

Okay but a 380whp NA car is gonna mop up on a 380whp FI car.

 

im not turbo's, but buying a used turbo from a Buick, tells oyu, that A. its old, B. its being sold for 100 bux for a reason, so save your money and buy a decent garrett!

 

I hear ap2's which are 2.2 make 300whp stock. =]

but in all seriousness the inline pro stroker which was 2.7L I believe on 100 octane made 300whp. 380whp NA.. I'm going to have to agree thats a damn pipe dream.

 

dont spend all that money on a s2000 and you putting that old *** turbo on that car . dont be a cheap *** spend the money and get a nice new turbo.

 

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I meant to say 280WHP with the Hytech kit. My mistake. 280 NA would still be a lot of fun though!

 

Why?

 

Because the N/A motor is going to have a better curve than the boosted. Not to mention its going to be at least 100 pounds lighter without all the turbo stuff.

 

I say for an S2000 that is built to thrive off of N/A keep it N/A!

 

lol

It cant put down good power N/A unless you are happy staying in the 200s

 

I guess I should have made it clear that I was being sarcastic when I said:


NA is much more "usable" power. Like under pressure said, it will have a better curve. Turbo is going to make better peak WHP. I think it would be safe to say that the 280whp NA s2000 is equal to about 500whp FI s2000. Anyone agree? Disagree?

Why do you think a K20 civic will beat a turbo stock internal b18 civic in a straight line. The k20 will have 210-220whp and the b18 will have 350-400whp.


I have never been impressed really with anything the s2000 can do in a straight line anyways. Bolt on a supercharger or turbo and your shaving about a second off of the 1/4 mile time. S2000 was never meant to be a straight line car, your better off drag racing a civic, lol. Most times I have seen from s2000's are in the 12's. Not impressive. You can slap a k20 in a civic and do 11's all day. I haven't seen any drag times from built NA s2000's but if there were I am sure they would all be in the 12's as well.


A well setup NA car is much harder to drive on a circuit track than a turbo car as well, for the same reason. Usable power. Its not forgiving.

 

Tell inline pro the car wasnt made for straight lines. I think most people get an S2000 so they can have a rear wheel drive and still own a Honda.

 

I think most people buy an S2000 to have a reliable convertible that is dead sexy. Or to have a great track car... And by track I do not mean drag strip. I don't think the RWD thing is that big of a deal, honestly.