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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 10:30 PM
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I need new brakes soon on my DA. It's got 152k on it, and is mostly a DD. Right now I've got OEM rotors on it (they could likely use replacement, there's a pretty decent lip) and Axxis Ultimate pads. I've been quite happy with the current setup, but was wondering if there was anything comparable to try out. I mostly DD it, some backroad and AutoX too though.

I was thinking of maybe trying Brembo blanks and Hawk HPS pads, how would that compare to my current setup?

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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 05:19 AM
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Depends how serious you are into autox or circuit racing.

IF you haven't done it much I recommend some good pads, rotors and flush the brake fluid and use a better fluid.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 10:06 AM
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Not very serious. It needs to stay an acceptable DD.

I already flush the fluid at a minimum annually and usually every few months with Super Blue or ATE Gold (switch back and forth) and have braided lines. I'm just not sure what pads I should go with.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 10:09 AM
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check out some sites. i bought a set of front and rear cross-drilled/slotted rotors, pbr pads and ss brake lines for about $350 less than a year ago and the brake pedal has a much better feel and the rotors don't wear down as fast as oem rotors and don't warp as easily. flushed the brake fluid after install it stopped a whole lot better than it ever did before.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 01:12 PM
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Cross drilled rotors are crap.
Do some searching and you'll find out why.

Blanks ftw.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by The G2 Racer
Cross drilled rotors are crap.
Absolutely NOT true.

The alleged reason for not using cross-drilled rotors is that they crack. But my experience has shown that that's BS.

I've tried cross-drilled rotors, slotted rotors, and solid-faced rotors on my heavily-tracked cars, and all three types lasted about the same number of track miles before ALL types eventually cracked. The cracks form in a radial direction. Yes, the cracks on cross-drilled rotors tended to form through the drill holes, but they didn't form any faster than on solid-faced rotors.

OTOH the cross-drilled and slotted didn't last any longer, either, so you may as well get the solid-face rotors, which are usually cheaper.

The one type of rotor that lasted longer with track use is two-piece rotors with flexible connecting hardware, which allow the outer "ring" of the rotor to expand with heat away from the inner "hat". But two-piece rotors are usually very expensive, and the extra lifespan is not enough to offset the extra cost.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 04:16 PM
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cross drilled rotors are the best, slotted wears out your pads faster
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by nsxtasy
Absolutely NOT true.

The alleged reason for not using cross-drilled rotors is that they crack. But my experience has shown that that's BS.

I've tried cross-drilled rotors, slotted rotors, and solid-faced rotors on my heavily-tracked cars, and all three types lasted about the same number of track miles before ALL types eventually cracked. The cracks form in a radial direction. Yes, the cracks on cross-drilled rotors tended to form through the drill holes, but they didn't form any faster than on solid-faced rotors.

OTOH the cross-drilled and slotted didn't last any longer, either, so you may as well get the solid-face rotors, which are usually cheaper.

The one type of rotor that lasted longer with track use is two-piece rotors with flexible connecting hardware, which allow the outer "ring" of the rotor to expand with heat away from the inner "hat". But two-piece rotors are usually very expensive, and the extra lifespan is not enough to offset the extra cost.
News to me.
Most stuff I've read had recommended against drilled rotors.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 09:44 PM
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didn't know that about the rotors. I could just stick with the solid face ones and it wouldn't have much of a difference.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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they cost less too. tried favorites are the axxis ultimates and hawk hps. both are pretty sporty but they barely cost more than the cheap ones.
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by nsxtasy
Absolutely NOT true.

The alleged reason for not using cross-drilled rotors is that they crack. But my experience has shown that that's BS.

I've tried cross-drilled rotors, slotted rotors, and solid-faced rotors on my heavily-tracked cars, and all three types lasted about the same number of track miles before ALL types eventually cracked. The cracks form in a radial direction. Yes, the cracks on cross-drilled rotors tended to form through the drill holes, but they didn't form any faster than on solid-faced rotors.

OTOH the cross-drilled and slotted didn't last any longer, either, so you may as well get the solid-face rotors, which are usually cheaper.

The one type of rotor that lasted longer with track use is two-piece rotors with flexible connecting hardware, which allow the outer "ring" of the rotor to expand with heat away from the inner "hat". But two-piece rotors are usually very expensive, and the extra lifespan is not enough to offset the extra cost.
Yeah, I don't need 2 piece rotors. I'd prefer not dropping that sort of money into brakes for a street car.

I guess I'll go Brembo blanks and Hawk HPS this time, just to see what I think of them vs the Ultimates.
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 10:19 AM
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the hps are good also, i've driven on both and just buy whichever i can find cheaper when i need brakes. as far as rotors go, they are a throw away item. something cheap and true would be my vote.
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