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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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i heard from a guy that you could run an exhaust cam on the intake side in my DA. (two exhaust cams) has anyone heard of this? it theoreticly sounds plausible but im just makin sure.
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 08:50 AM
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it would be possible if there was a notch in the end of the exhaust cam for the distributor to fit.
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 09:03 AM
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what the H! i hadnt thought about that. i feel stupid. ok nevermind...
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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I would not work at all. The durations on exhaust cams are shorter and the lift isn't as high so even if they would fit, they wouldn't yeild any power gains.
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 11:48 AM
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Your friend is probably a nissan guy huh? I know that mod is commonly done on the k24 240s.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 08:18 AM
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indeed he is a nissan guy. He fails!
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 08:53 AM
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well, maybe it doesn't fail for the Nissans (could be a good thing if lots of people do it). He just fails at giving Honda tuning advice.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 09:44 AM
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I was told that an intake cam in the exhaust position of a vtec is an option for more power. I do believe it will fit fine.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by hknobel
I was told that an intake cam in the exhaust position of a vtec is an option for more power. I do believe it will fit fine.
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Dang brah dats pretty sick, u not botha 2 reed da rest of da thread? Exhaust cam gotta have notch 4 dizzzzzzzzy yooo
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by neardon
Dang brah dats pretty sick, u not botha 2 reed da rest of da thread? Exhaust cam gotta have notch 4 dizzzzzzzzy yooo
The distributor does not go on the exhaust side, therefore its possible to use an intake cam on the exhaust side.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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The distributor does not go on the exhaust side, therefore its possible to use an intake cam on the exhaust side.
what kinda dumb piece of expletive uses an intake cam for an exhaust cam?

they have different lift and duration specs
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 01:07 PM
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Yes, that is the whole idea, the intake cam has more duration and more lift, hence an improvement in power.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by B18CUL8R
what kinda dumb piece of expletive uses an intake cam for an exhaust cam?

they have different lift and duration specs
Originally Posted by hknobel
Yes, that is the whole idea, the intake cam has more duration and more lift, hence an improvement in power.
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Before calling people idiots, make sure you are not 1
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by neardon
I would not work at all. The durations on exhaust cams are shorter and the lift isn't as high so even if they would fit, they wouldn't yeild any power gains.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 02:10 PM
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If you are not going to go to higher lift and more duration you are NOT going to make any more HP.
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Alright, I'm not saying anything said in here is a good idea.

However the intake camshaft has a higher light and longer duration than the exhaust camshaft. That is a fact.

But I'm not sure what effect you would get from running 2 intake camshafts. Since the intake cam itself is not changed, it's not like you're going to be pulling in any larger volume of air than you were before. To get that you would have to go with higher lift and longer duration than stock, like with a Type R camshaft.

But then you might as well just put both Type R camshafts in your engine and quit screwing around with putting cams on the wrong side of the head.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 03:33 PM
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Well, I appreciate what you are saying but: what I am talking about is using the intake cam in the exhaust position and REPLACING the intake cam with an aftermarket cam of more than stock specs. That way you only have to purchase one cam. Please do not tell me it will not work because it is already a proven system. Stick to discussing the merits of more exhaust duration and changing the intake to also add lift and duration beyond the stock cam.
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 07:52 AM
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werd.
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94
Alright, I'm not saying anything said in here is a good idea.

However the intake camshaft has a higher light and longer duration than the exhaust camshaft. That is a fact.

But I'm not sure what effect you would get from running 2 intake camshafts. Since the intake cam itself is not changed, it's not like you're going to be pulling in any larger volume of air than you were before. To get that you would have to go with higher lift and longer duration than stock, like with a Type R camshaft.

But then you might as well just put both Type R camshafts in your engine and quit screwing around with putting cams on the wrong side of the head.

just to add, but, isn't the intake side duration/lift of the gsr the same as the type r exhaust?
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by hknobel
Well, I appreciate what you are saying but: what I am talking about is using the intake cam in the exhaust position and REPLACING the intake cam with an aftermarket cam of more than stock specs. That way you only have to purchase one cam. Please do not tell me it will not work because it is already a proven system. Stick to discussing the merits of more exhaust duration and changing the intake to also add lift and duration beyond the stock cam.
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if you're going through the trouble of buying a set of aftermarket cams... might as well use both... because who's going to sell you one cam?

the way i see it, intake & exhaust must work together harmoniously... you might think that the intake cam will have more lift and duration but not to the degree of an aftermarket cam.
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 09:06 AM
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Guys, scratch this idea..

http://www.cranecams.com/images/down...All%20PNs).jpg

Cams are side by side. Notice that cylinder #2 lobes are offset. Switching cams will not work on our cars.
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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I thought it made good sense. BTW, Weird is the correct spelling, but now with phonetic messaging going on, one never knows, does one.
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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I was changing my cam gears over the weekend and noticed the same thing
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 09:14 AM
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For ***** and giggles, we tried doing it once, and it didn't work.
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Originally Posted by 90_EX_Civic
just to add, but, isn't the intake side duration/lift of the gsr the same as the type r exhaust?
I don't know about that. All I know is the ITR's exhaust valve springs are the same as the GS-R's intake side.

But this swapping cams idea doesn't work anyway, so /thread nao
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