Ok. So I am going with an H22a 5 speed swap into my 6th gen. I've been doing my research in the FAQ, but I still have a few unanswered questions. Please guys, I need your help so bare with me through my lack of knowledge in swaps. Over look my list & tell me if everything looks correct.

Questions I have about the parts list

7. Why do I need a 94-97 Accord 5 speed brake pedal arm? I thought if anything, I'd need a prelude arm.

17. Why isn’t there a part number to this? Should I get my year accord?

18. Will the company that is doing the swap for me have these bolts, or do I need to buy them serperately?



5 spd Swap Parts List

1. H22 5 Speed Transmission
2. 90-02 Prelude Starter
3. 92-96 Shifter Assembly w/ Shifter Cables
4. 1998 Accord 5 Speed driver axle
5. 1998 Accord 5 speed intermediate shaft
6. 92-96 Prelude Clutch Pedal Assembly
7. 94-97 Accord 5 speed brake pedal arm
8. 92-96 Prelude Clutch Master Cylinder w/ reservoir and lines
9. 92-96 Prelude Clutch line from Clutch master cylinder to clutch dampener
10. 92-96 Prelude Clutch Dampener assembly
11. 92-96 Prelude clutch line from dampener to 5 speed tranny
12. 92-96 Prelude Clutch line from 5 speed tranny to slave cylinder
13. 92-96 Prelude Slave Cylinder
14. 92-01 Prelude Clutch
15. 92-01 Prelude Flywheel
16. 98 Accord 5-speed transmission mount
17. 98 Accord 5-speed transmission mount bracket
18. BOLTS: 8 Flywheel Bolts, 6 Pressure Plate Bolts, 3 Intermediate Shaft Bolts, 1 Long Tranny Bolt


Do I need a new 5 Speed P13 ECU for my new tranny? It doesn’t mention in it in the parts needed. If so, won’t I need a wire harness conversion?

 

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i will take a shot. i might not be 100% though. mine is a 4th so my experience is with the 4th only. the pedal assembly should be from your gen car. why. no mods necessary. the pedal assembly arm probably bends around the steering wheel column differently. easier to get the whole thing instead of taking your old ones out and swapping in the new 5 spd ones. however i do not see why you need the prelude clutch pedal. i was able to use my gen pedal and i believe its the same for the 5th gen.

as far as the company who does this, i doubt they will have the bolts. its up to you to get these. here are two links for parts. majestic is very popular on here. the second is who i have my experience with though. easier site to find parts and most parts are a little cheaper. shipping was also quick.
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/
http://www.hondapartsdeals.com/

if you have a buddy and a garage, i highly recommend you do the swap yourself. its cheaper and you learn ALOT from doing it. I had no mechanic experience when i did mine. I was able to do my all by myself. I rented a storage unit and completed the job in a month. it took me a month because i had to do it on my spare time due to working 7 days a week having two jobs. with the right tools its way easier. i basically bought tools as i went. honda use metric sizes. if you didn't already know.

are you sure your gonna let a shop do this. it will cost you anywhere from 700-1200. depending on your area. mine wanted to charge me as much as when they installed my auto h22 1k. if i knew what i know now, i would have done the motor two.

 

Well you can ditch all that 92-96 lude stuff and use the appropriate parts for your gen, including the 5 speed pedal. The only auto mount you cant use is the pass side, and will need to be replaced with the 6th gen 5 speed mount. I reused my flywheel bolts and had existing bolts for the pressure plate and intermediate shaft so....?
But read through the swap guide in the FAQ section, you'll find what you need there

 

dont worry about it, it can be done, i got mine running pretty good. p13 or p28 are good ecu choices. i did not change my brake pedal either. the company doing your swap should be getting there oem bolts and so on from honda or your parts store, just ask them. the driverside mount is going to have to be custom made, unless they have a kit for it.

 

"the pedal assembly should be from your gen car. why. no mods necessary. the pedal assembly arm probably bends around the steering wheel column differently. easier to get the whole thing instead of taking your old ones out and swapping in the new 5 spd ones. however i do not see why you need the prelude clutch pedal. i was able to use my gen pedal and i believe its the same for the 5th gen."

This doesnt really answer my questions..If I need the brake pedal assembly in my gen, should I get the Prelude or Accord parts?


"Well you can ditch all that 92-96 lude stuff and use the appropriate parts for your gen, including the 5 speed pedal. "

So I can use an H22a 5spd transmission while running all other 6th gen Accord 5 speed parts such as pedal assembly and linkage? That doesnt make since, I've never heard that before.

"dont worry about it, it can be done, i got mine running pretty good."
Thanks for ther input, but that explains nothing for my swap.

 

as far as i know of i dont have to mod anything being that i have a 5speed already ... so i would assume that all you need are 6th gen manual trans pedal assembly ...

 

i just checked majestic honda ... looked up the manual trans for my 2001 accord ex 5 speed and a 95 prelude and it lists two transmissions ... f23a and h22a ... KA5MT and KL5MT is listed for both engines ... im guessing clutch linkage should be the same ... but dont quote me on that

http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com

 

Dude. Look at Turbowa's writeup for the 6th gen 5 speed swap. Thats all you have to do.
The motor doesnt matter, the trans doesnt matter. They're all interchangable, what you have to do is;
1)Use 6g clutch and brake pedal, auto gas pedal doesnt have to be touched whatsoever
2)Use 6g linkage and shift box, its a direct bolt in and wont bind or snag anything
3)Use 6g 5spd mount, no modification necessary. No other gen will bolt in
4)Use 6g clutchline, master, and slave cylinder. You MUST have the f23 slave cyl bracket/mount to use the clutch line. No modification needed
5)Space the master cylinder from the firewall ~3/4in with spacers, will not operate correctly otherwise.

I have an h22a 5spd on my f23 right now with this setup and no problems at all. Feel free to search under my name to see a writeup I did with a few more tips. Just MAKE SURE you have the o rings for the clutch line or its just gonna bleed all over the place.
GL

 

So everything mentioned in MY list as a 97 Lude product, I simply need as a 6th G 5 speed part? Why would that all be written in the FAQ write up if its incorrect?

 

Cause youre looking at the one for the 5th gen accord, which does use the shifter and pedals and the other assorted parts of the 92-96 lude. The 97-01 lude I *believe uses the same shift box and linkage as the 6g accord, but thats where it stops. Trust me, I have this setup in my CG6 as we speak. Look under my name for a thread with tips on the swap...that'll help you avoid some headaches I encountered. Still dont have the wiring perfect yet but I havent been trying that hard either honestly

 

through context clues, basically i did tell you which pedal assembly to use. i also said i wasn't sure. my experience is with the 4th gen. ecu wise. don't get the p28 unless you have an after market program to run it. a p28 will not work correctly for a h22 alone. as far the bolts, like i said, take it upon yourself to get them. look in a helms to get the parts names you need, then order them from majestic or hondapartsdeals. the company thats doing the swap may charge you more for something you could have done.

 

Hey OP, I just wrecked my accord. If you like you can buy my swap parts from me, I'll include all the bolts and stuff as well
Linkage,ds axle and halfshaft, shiftbox-will need shift boot, pedal set, Master and Slave Cylinder with washers for master, resevoir,new f23 vss and h22 vss, I also have GC sleeve overs for koni, prokit springs, and camber kit. I'll probably put up a f/s thread by sun with pics. LMK