I have trouble deciding on what motor to get either h22a or h23a vtec? And if yall say the h22 then which one? I have $1500 but i can get engines cheap! Help me out, i already have the h23a non vtec and i want something faster.

 

The f22 is a better engine

Seriously, if you have an h23 and want more power read up on both. Both can be pretty fun motors. I vote put nitrous in the h23, upgrade some other parts of the car and enjoy that. You can hit 13's with nitrous in your h23.

 

do you mean h23 vtec or non vtec? the f22 is just like the h23 none vtec isnt it. plus the h22 has more hp than both h23's. so how is it better? if i get the h22 i can just put nitrous on it.

 

word of advice, read the faq's section. f22 and h23 are not the same motors or even alike. f22 is sohc, h23 is dohc. The reason i suggested nitrous is because you will make a ton more power than an h22 and you can safely run it on an h23. Look for the nitrous thread in this section of the forum. Read the ENTIRE thing, it will explain alot and answer alot of questions if you have any. If you have a healthy h23 and want to go nitrous there is no reason to waste your $1500 on a h22 swap. Save yourself $1000 and put that money somewhere else.

Now go read.

 

if your h23a is in okay shape than sink the 1500 into upgrades. To swap an h22 into your car if the current motor is fine is kind of a waste of money in my opinion. From an h23a to an h22a though it is a app. 30 hp jump but you only really feel that extra hp when your in vtec. I guess in reality though with 1500 you can only likely get a full I/H/E (average header) and perhaps an ecu with a tune. Or you could buy a good header and not tune. I'd get a 300-400 dollar header and try to get an ecu w/tune. Might run you a touch higher than 1500.

If how ever your going to do the motor drop yourself (no labor cost) of course dropping an h22 would probably be an okay idea too.

And yeah you can just nitrous your h22 motor aswell.

 

But there are more mod choices later on, if you decide to go H22.

 

Matt i would disagree. $1500 can go a long way. If i was him i would do this

$100 -Ebay SS 4-2-1 header
$200 -2.5 exhaust
$50 -highflow cat
$50 -CAI
$150-200 -MSD digi 6
$100-200 -SAFC or VAFC (which ever he can find for cheaper)
$400-700 -Nitrous wet kit
$300-400 -Tune

Total = $1350-$1900 depending on what kind of deals he can find online. A $400 nitrous kit is most likely a used kit but should be 100% complete the $700 is for a complete zex kit brand new.

Before anybody says the ebay header is junk, i used it myself for the entire summer this year and absolutely nothing was wrong with it. It was identical to my old megan one because guess what, it is made by the same company. Read up on the chinese company that makes megan, you will see they are the same company that makes the SS no name ones. People just think they are paying for better quality by them slapping a megan badge on it.

As for the exhaust, that price is for an ebay exhaust (mufflers will go out within a year though) or he could add another $200 and buy an apexi ws2 for $400.

Either way, you do all of the above, get the car tuned, he will crack 200whp easily and safely. I would guess closer to 215whp ish with a 75 shot. A stock h22 has no chance off coming close to those numbers.

 

I'd take the H23A over the H22A just to experiment. They're rated the same (200ps) though so you're not looking at staggering differences.
The one thing to consider is that H23As are all going to be newer engines, while H22As can date back awhile. So make sure you're price comparing similar age engines (if you care).

 

^ where do you did you dig up that faq? The H23 is older than the H22 by a year. The H23 was introduced in the 1992 prelude. The follwing year H22's became avaliable in the Si and SRV models. H23's were avaliable (92-96), H22's were avaliable (93-01).

 

I think you should re-read what the OP is asking. And heck, read my post as well :p

 

"H23As are all going to be newer engines, while H22As can date back awhile"

?? how are they newer? Oh well, lets stay on topic.

 

If you're planning on having the car for a long time I'd go for the swap, they have more aftermarket support.

 

He's not talking about H23A1's but H23A's it's an OBDII Accord motor, and one I'd really like to play with someday

 

OHHHHH i see, i apologize for my ignorance :p

 

Actually, the H22 was introduced in Japan in 1991 so I believe they are the same age because they probably introduced the Si the same year.

And just to clarify OP, are you talking about the h23vtec Bluetop?

 

Don't forget that h23a and h23vtec are different engins!
one came with vitak and the other without, also H23vtec came on 99'+ accords in Japan only! So I guess it iIS newer... And also its obdII so, its better. I have 99' h23vtec in my 98' lude and I love it! I was also thinking wich motor should I get and I got the blue top, cuz its pretty rare! Everyone has h22 these days, but not so many h23's, so don't worry, get an h23 and have a fun!!

 

I still say, trying to pull a swap off for 1500 dollars is really getting close to the price marker.
Of course you can buy a shatty motor and put it in, but honestly, how long do you think a shatty 800 dollar motor will last. And finding a H23a for under 1500 bucks, lol, good luck with that.

 

i still think he should do what i suggested and buy all those mods.

 

Thats similar what I told him to do in another one his other threads about the same thing ^^

 

It is, imo, the best path he could take to get lots of power with that money and still have it be very reliable.

 

If you really want a swap I would just go with a straight H22A. Otherwise, build up your H23A1. The H23A VTEC can get pricey, because it only came mated to an automatic transmission, so there will be the ECU to think about if installing with a 5 spd. Most likely you will have to go with something custom and get it tuned, which will cost money on top of the swap.

 

ok I've owned the h22 and currently own an h23a dohc vtec jdm motor. H23a hands down in my opinion. Although you wouldnt think it, there is quite a difference in the power of the two. And as previously mentioned, the h23a can withstand quite a bit of punishment. But be for-warned, the h23 can get pricey real quick if you want a 5sp. If im not mistaken you have to switch ecus, and get a re-tune.

 

The OP has not responded in a long time, i wonder if he is reading any of this?

 

h23a thats wat i was gona go with but i decided to just build up my h23a1 and cam the bitch...H22(OVER RATED!!!)

 

yea well my h23a1 has to many miles (240,000) and i dont wanna put to much money in it so this mech. i know can get me the same engine for $2200 including labor, and the engine has 140,000 miles and a 6 month warranty but i dont want that engine bc it only has 160 hp. i read that the h22 has 200 hp and the h23 vtec has 197 hp. i just want the most power. so should i go with the h22? i already have intake, headers, greddy exhaust system so which move should i make. i just want most power.