i am quite sure i have a std or dx because i have DPFI, but how do i know which one i dont know if it really matters lol was just curious, as well ive been looking a LOT into engines and as of now my engine is pretty much in the craper and i was going to spend the money to take it in and try to get it fixed, but lately ive strongly been thinking about some kind of swap, i have a D15B1 which i looked up and realized i have 60 hp not 90 like i thought i didnt know they came with any engines lower then 90 hp so that was a bummer lol. anyways i wasnt sure what the best options are money is an issue so ive been looking into D swaps i know the mini me is out there but im not sure if thats worth it on my engine and i know about the mpfi swap but once again instead of doing all that to mine it seems much easier to just get a whole swap especially because mines not running, i got about $600 bucks as of now to drop into a engine and wanted to know my best options. ive done some research on D15Z7 and 8s as well as all the D16 swaps Z Y B A, and i noticed differences like sohc and dohc, obd2 and obd1, and am just very overwhelmed.so im basicly looking for like a run down of what to look for in an engine which of the D16s are better and why stuff like that. really, really appreciate all and any help thanks

(sorry for being a noobie lol)

 

dx are the worst if u want to swap something becuase you need to change everything...

about the engine relaly depends on you, do you want to deal with a turbo?

if turbo i say go d16 turbo, if not do a b16 for old school or a gsr maybe. But remember any of these choises will cost you more then 600 bucks.

Want my honest opinion? 1st question is your car running fine?

If yes, fix it up cosmetically... there are to many fast ef's that look like ****... Make it sexy looking first

 

well i have been working on cosmetic every single day brand new paint job redoing the entire interior getting wheels, but the thing is no it doesn't run, so i need to do something and the money it cost in repairing the crap engine i have i could get a swap and im staying away from B series there way out of my price range but i was looking into just stock D16s no turbo, but didnt know which of the D16s are best and just kind of general info on em. ive seen some for around my price range though bu theres just so many types i wasnt sure what to even look for.

 

The worst part about your engine is that it is a dpfi. Search on here for dpfi to mpfi conversion. That will help you alot. to keep swap simple I recomend staying obd0. I would suggest a d16a6 (crx and civic si 88-91 sohc engine). it is a super easy swap and try to get the transmission that comes with it. The dx tranny you have is really high geared which equals slow in our stock hondas. The si swap is really easy just make sure you run it mpfi with the right ecu.Other than that it bolts right in. good luck

 

general info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_D_engine haha

honestly id say to grab a sohc vtec, they are in your price range.

 

lol funny you linked that ive been looking at that exact link for the last hour.

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man this is confusing. i want a complete swap. just so many variables feel like im going into this blindly. wish there wasn't so many kinds of D15s and D16s lol.

 

you just want a little quick car to mess around with? get a sohc zc... end of story. dirt cheap and fun

 

yeah exactly, its my first car and i just need a good reliable engine that has a lot of potential and can have fun with. sohc zc, hmm zcs are japanese engines though arnt they seems like they will be hard to find lol.

The VTEC SOHC ZC is identical to the D16Z6, and the DOHC ZC is similar to the D16A1, D16A3, D16A8, D16A9 and D16Z5 engines.

what fuel control should i be looking at? and should i get sohc or dohc im not sure what the differences are i know dohc is better but is it like a lot harder to install or something.

 

I agree with Mog, any obd0 SOHC d16 is a super easy fun swap

SOHC ZC is a jdm version of the d16a6 (If I remember correct)
d16a6 SOHC OBD0 non vtec is 88-91 si
d16z6 SOHC OBD1 vtec 92-95 si
d16y8 SOHC OBD2 vtec 96-00 ex

these are all really simple swaps and what you should be looking for. I just recomend staying with your cable transmission and if you get the z6 or the y8 convert it to obd1 with a conversion harness from rywire.com and use a p28 ecu

 

DOHC ZC is not the same as the d16 dohc. the d16 dohc will bolt into an older integra the dohc ZC will bolt into your car. you will not have to do anything with your fuel control just proper ecu and MPFI

 

ah hmm thats confusing lol. is the fuel control a b*tch to change?

 

yup, any one of those.

yes dohc is better better this is your first swap right? sohc are cheaper, just go with it... i mean any sohc d16 look identical pretty much so you wont get lost. maybe do this as your first swap then are you get some more experience get something bigger.

 

you don't have to do anything with the fuel just look up mpfi conversion it is simple

 

ah yeah true awesome thanks a lot for your help seriously you guys are helping me so much lol i was sooooo lost earlier. so i know i want a D16 sohc the biggest bang for my buck i think going from a D15B1 to D16 sohc with vtec and mpfi will make a huge difference im excited.

im still lost on the obd0 obd1 obd2 stuff cause i was looking at like the D16Z6 but its obd1 what differences are there if i get a obd 1 or 2 and not 0?

also whats PGM-FI ive seen that on a few.

 

ah i did alright i getcha thats not a big deal. just wiring stuff from what i understand.

 

if you get a z6 or y8 run convert your car to obd1 go to www.rywire.com you have to run a few wires and switch to a 4 wire o2 sensor and wire up vtec selenoid and pressure sensor. and you should use a p28 obd1 ecu. with the zc or the a6 just use the crx si obd1 ecu and it is pretty much plug and play. You don't have to run the obd1 vtec engine obd1 but I highly recomend running it that way(that is what I am doing).

 

for 600 bucks i would just go with the 88-91 crx si or civic si motor d16a6 or sohc zc...

the vtec swap is a more pricey and has a few more electrical modifications which will cost you some more $$. besides you're still going to want to buy an civic si or crx si 5-speed tranny.

 

yeah the d16a6 seems to be my best bet cheapest an easiest since it is my first swap. now i just got to find the engine lol and hope i dont get screwed and wind up needing a bunch of other parts or something.

my question is whats the difference of swapping my b15b1 with a b16a6 or just swapping the dpfi to mpfi and getting a new head on my engine?

 

i had a 89 civic dx before i got my si(nice lady in a tahoe rearended me)goin from the d15b2 to the d16a6 is a big difference.I would get the d16a6 motor if i was you and go form there;if you can afford the short ratio SI tranny grab that to if not you'll have a little more pep and a more'laggy" tranny GL.

 

you can just buy a si intake manifold with throttle body, fuel rail, injectors, si distributor, injector resistor box, pm6 ecu, do mpfi conversion and replace your dual point setup, but you said your engine is in the craper... besides you will have to look for these parts individually unless you get lucky and buy some together, but i recommend buying a d16a6 or zc engine instead. it will all be there.

 

ah alright awesome thanks a lot for all your help, i guess my next step is to search for a D16a6