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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 08:54 PM
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I know its a waste of time but ill try, anyone here drag their automatic civic? I got mine and it seems whats killing me is the launch, dont really know what else to do to get off the line better. I tried preloading, brake launching ahd just plain ole smashing it nothing showed any clear advantage. Once im up and running im good to go. Ill have a turbo on soon enough just tryin to see if anyone else out there has any ideas.
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 03:16 AM
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racer stev pondered this question before.

problem is honda squish boxes cant handle the power our cars make in stock trim. let alone hanging a hairdryer on them.

to get your car to leave higher you need a higher than stock stall speed converter.

im not sure if level 10 parts are still available.
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 05:25 AM
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mikey you should come out with your own automotive thesaurus. i swear you have a new term for every single thing and or part associated with modifying a car!
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 05:29 AM
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mikey you should come out with your own automotive thesaurus. i swear you have a new term for every single thing and or part associated with modifying a car!
You mean you don't have a stock stall speed converter Joe?
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 05:33 AM
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no i have one of those i just didnt know i had a squish box! ive never heard that one before!
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 05:55 AM
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joe im showing that i am older than you, were calling them squish boxes when my t type started slipping back in 95 and i know that term was there long before that.

think about it, a slipping trans = squish box. nice soft shifts. he hee

get back to work.
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by boostedcivicsir
racer stev pondered this question before.

problem is honda squish boxes cant handle the power our cars make in stock trim. let alone hanging a hairdryer on them.

to get your car to leave higher you need a higher than stock stall speed converter.

im not sure if level 10 parts are still available.
ive personally seen them hold 160-170hp for 2-3 years. Just change the fluid every 10k miles and run an external cooler nad remeber to lift if your full throttle when shifting. I think level 10 still has stuff but they arent worth it for an extra 750rpms they give you. Ill have a 14b turbo so brake launching it will hold me at full boost for the launch. Absolute will be doing my tune when its done also
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 1.5Slowmatic
ive personally seen them hold 160-170hp for 2-3 years. Just change the fluid every 10k miles and run an external cooler nad remeber to lift if your full throttle when shifting. I think level 10 still has stuff but they arent worth it for an extra 750rpms they give you. Ill have a 14b turbo so brake launching it will hold me at full boost for the launch. Absolute will be doing my tune when its done also
How you planning on tuning it? Can't tune a auto ecu so all you'll have is a band aid like a afc. I don't see why your going to put all that effort into a car you have to lift to shift in. Kinda defeats the purpose of using a auto doesn't it?
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by boostedcivicsir
joe im showing that i am older than you, were calling them squish boxes when my t type started slipping back in 95 and i know that term was there long before that.

think about it, a slipping trans = squish box. nice soft shifts. he hee

get back to work.

Back in my day, we called them slush boxes. I won't tell you how long ago that was...there was always the old slip and slide powerglide too. Oh ya, they had cast iron cases too. My 61 Chevy had one.
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 1992Si
Back in my day, we called them slush boxes. I won't tell you how long ago that was...there was always the old slip and slide powerglide too. Oh ya, they had cast iron cases too. My 61 Chevy had one.
im not quite as long in the tooth as you, but atleast my 68 chevelle had an aluminum glide. i have gotten to work on a few iron glides.
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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How you planning on tuning it? Can't tune a auto ecu so all you'll have is a band aid like a afc. I don't see why your going to put all that effort into a car you have to lift to shift in. Kinda defeats the purpose of using a auto doesn't it?
AEM F/IC is what it will be tuned on. The purpose of my auto is becasue of all the city.traffic driving i do way to much to be shifting all the time. And if ya got a stick shift ya gotta lift to shift to no different, cept i have no chance of missing a shift
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by boostedcivicsir
im not quite as long in the tooth as you, but atleast my 68 chevelle had an aluminum glide. i have gotten to work on a few iron glides.
nothin like 2 speeds of fury lol
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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i remember reading all the features for the aem ems and remember seeing a huge list of automatic related fetures are these not useable on a honda application ?
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 09:37 AM
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its not the EMS its the F/IC, its a piggy back, im not sure if it can be used on honda autos but im not about to spend the money to find out, im not that baller
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by nsxmatt
How you planning on tuning it? Can't tune a auto ecu so all you'll have is a band aid like a afc. I don't see why your going to put all that effort into a car you have to lift to shift in. Kinda defeats the purpose of using a auto doesn't it?
Actually that is partly true. You can tune the OBD1 Integras with external TCM using Hondata and Crome. I have tuned quite a few with this method with one of my auto to auto harnesses. I have noticed that while the ecu/engine functions are able to be tuned, the auto trans is not to be adjusted. Also since the TCU receives inputs from the ECU, the shifting is affected accordingly so. Sometimes this results in some hard shifting. With the increased torque output from being boosted and this extra hard shifting.....not sure how long the trans will last.

As far as the OBD1 civics.....I haven't had much luck with them, unless you are running a complete OBD1 civic setup....trans, engine, etc. since the OBD1 civic ecu only controls part of the auto tranny functions. If you have an OBD2 car and want to use a conversion harness......not gonna happen.
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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^^^ Spoken from the Honda Guru himself!!!
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Blown90hatcH
Actually that is partly true. You can tune the OBD1 Integras with external TCM using Hondata and Crome.
He's running a 1.5 obd1 92-95 according to his info, that's why I said he won't be able to tune it like a traditional manual car.
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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no, thats just my name on all the forums, i have a bastard y8 motor, not really sure on the internalls as its a JDM block that i cant find and damn specs for but its a y8 head on it, its a 97 4dr EX. THe OBD1's actually can be chipped and tuned so not sure where you got that info you just cant convert OBDII auto to OBDI
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by nsxmatt
He's running a 1.5 obd1 92-95 according to his info, that's why I said he won't be able to tune it like a traditional manual car.
That's not what I said. I said if he has an OBD2 auto and wants to convert down and run the OBD1, then it's not going to work auto. If he has the entire OBD1 setup, then he can tune it auto.
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 01:33 PM
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in other words as long as hes running a obd1 engine harness and ecu in a originally obd1 equipped car hes good to go
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by turbo97coupe
in other words as long as hes running a obd1 engine harness and ecu in a originally obd1 equipped car hes good to go
that would be correct
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by turbo97coupe
in other words as long as hes running a obd1 engine harness and ecu in a originally obd1 equipped car hes good to go
And engine, tranny, linkages, cables, etc.....
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 04:08 PM
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well thats kool to know everyone else says u cant tune any auto honda , not that i would own one though lol but i enjoy learning new things thanks man
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