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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 05:09 PM
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alright well the topic pretty much asks the question are the k20a's handbuilt like its predecessor??
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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hand assembled yes
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 07:04 AM
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I believe they are too
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by h8ted ek
hand assembled yes
are these the only engines that where hand assembled by honda??
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 07:09 AM
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im sure the nsx is as well
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Originally Posted by NHswaps13203
im sure the nsx is as well
yeah i was kinda assuming that it would be.. well now i can ask my question i know this is a dc5 thread but my question involves my b18c and the k20a i was in a car accident 7 months a go and wrecked my car now i have 2 options either build the b18c or get a k20a and start a whole new project.. i have had people tell me that a k20a with boltons would be faster that a built b series.. of course i know if you build a k20a ex: sleeves and all the good stuff it would be way faster that a built b series.. now how well do these k series engine perform to boltons
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The Type-R and S2000 are hand built too
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 08:56 AM
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K series take mods like nothing I've ever seen. They LOVE mods.

But is it worth it? K swaps alone are around 10 grand and then to build it too... $$$
Where you could pick up another B series for a couple grand at most and spend a lot less to make it push out the same amount of power.

I'm not saying don't do the K, but if money could be an issue I'd stick with B series.
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K series take mods like nothing I've ever seen. They LOVE mods.

But is it worth it? K swaps alone are around 10 grand and then to build it too... $$$
Where you could pick up another B series for a couple grand at most and spend a lot less to make it push out the same amount of power.

I'm not saying don't do the K, but if money could be an issue I'd stick with B series.
i guess money wouldnt be the problem, i wanted something fast this summer coming up but if i can get more power from a k20 with boltons i think its better project.. and it comes with 6 gears even better..
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Originally Posted by VTECROAR96typeR
alright well the topic pretty much asks the question are the k20a's handbuilt like its predecessor??
Why on earth would it matter how it's built? No, Honda of Japan does not hand pnp the head like they used to on the B18C5, but the head on the K20a flows better as cast.

I don't see how this matters to your second question, however.

What chassis are you putting the motor into? If it's an older pre-00/01 Honda/Acura, then a K-swap won't be cheap. At that point, why not just buy a faster stock car?
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Why on earth would it matter how it's built? No, Honda of Japan does not hand pnp the head like they used to on the B18C5, but the head on the K20a flows better as cast.

I don't see how this matters to your second question, however.

What chassis are you putting the motor into? If it's an older pre-00/01 Honda/Acura, then a K-swap won't be cheap. At that point, why not just buy a faster stock car?

cause engines that are handmade would make anyone feel more confterable to know that their engines aint gonna blow up on them. ex: b16's my friend had one from a si and he took it above 8k rpms 2 times and his block cracked, with my type r i sometimes took it to 9k rpms and nothing ever happend ... and the k20a would go on a ek hatch.. yes i know im gonna pay 10k for the swap thats not a problem. and why dont i just buy a faster stock car. like what? A EVO, STI, S2000? why am i gonna waste $20k on something like that, when i know a k20a hatch can smoke those cars
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go for it.
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k20a's with bolt on will make more power then most street built b-series'
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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A B16 revs to 8100rpms stock. There are thousands upon thousands doing it all over the world right now without any problems. I think your friends car had other issues. Your 'control' group is way to small to make outlandish claims such that you are making.

And a EVO, STi, Mazdaspeed, etc. with a few boltons and ECU work will all smoke your K20 n/a hatch.



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cause engines that are handmade would make anyone feel more confterable to know that their engines aint gonna blow up on them. ex: b16's my friend had one from a si and he took it above 8k rpms 2 times and his block cracked, with my type r i sometimes took it to 9k rpms and nothing ever happend ... and the k20a would go on a ek hatch.. yes i know im gonna pay 10k for the swap thats not a problem. and why dont i just buy a faster stock car. like what? A EVO, STI, S2000? why am i gonna waste $20k on something like that, when i know a k20a hatch can smoke those cars
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Originally Posted by Todd00
A B16 revs to 8100rpms stock. There are thousands upon thousands doing it all over the world right now without any problems. I think your friends car had other issues. Your 'control' group is way to small to make outlandish claims such that you are making.

And a EVO, STi, Mazdaspeed, etc. with a few boltons and ECU work will all smoke your K20 n/a hatch.
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Originally Posted by Type-'S'paz
mods.

But is it worth it? K swaps alone are around 10 grand and then to build it too... $$$
$10,000? That's a bit inflated. Maybe worst case scenario for an older Honda chassis with the K20A and LSD tranny and all the running gear.
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Originally Posted by VTECROAR96typeR
cause engines that are handmade would make anyone feel more confterable to know that their engines aint gonna blow up on them. ex: b16's my friend had one from a si and he took it above 8k rpms 2 times and his block cracked, with my type r i sometimes took it to 9k rpms and nothing ever happend ... and the k20a would go on a ek hatch.. yes i know im gonna pay 10k for the swap thats not a problem. and why dont i just buy a faster stock car. like what? A EVO, STI, S2000? why am i gonna waste $20k on something like that, when i know a k20a hatch can smoke those cars
you do realize when you decide to sell that you can at least make some of your money back on an evo or sti whereas you will have to part out your EK and be lucky to make 50% back.

you realize evo's run low to mid 13 quarter mile times stock right? you could get a more comfortable car with more amenities from an evo and hit mid 12's with very minor mods. same goes with an sti.
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you do realize when you decide to sell that you can at least make some of your money back on an evo or sti whereas you will have to part out your EK and be lucky to make 50% back.

you realize evo's run low to mid 13 quarter mile times stock right? you could get a more comfortable car with more amenities from an evo and hit mid 12's with very minor mods. same goes with an sti.
very true my best time is 11.92 at 113mph, best 60 to date is 1.67 all in street form in a 06 evo Mr . only has turbo back exhaust (except stock 02 housing).tubular mani . injen upper intercooler pipe and intake and reflash . and Hks ebc and stock turbo btw
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Plus and EVO or STi will be an all around better built performance car in terms of handling, etc when compared to an EK. I would never spend 10K on just a motor swap into an EK or EG. The car will never retain that much value and I would much rather have an S2000 or something that isn't QUITE as fast in a straight line but it an all around better car. My friend just spent a little over 5K on a turbo D16 for his EG. 252WHP and 225 WTQ and you know what... It is still a rickity old EG that rattles and shakes and feels like it is going to fall apart. And he will probably not be able to sell it for more than 4 if lucky.
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Plus and EVO or STi will be an all around better built performance car in terms of handling, etc when compared to an EK. I would never spend 10K on just a motor swap into an EK or EG. The car will never retain that much value and I would much rather have an S2000 or something that isn't QUITE as fast in a straight line but it an all around better car. My friend just spent a little over 5K on a turbo D16 for his EG. 252WHP and 225 WTQ and you know what... It is still a rickity old EG that rattles and shakes and feels like it is going to fall apart. And he will probably not be able to sell it for more than 4 if lucky.
would have been cheaper to just get an ebay kit and replace the D series engine(s) when they blew.

spending 10k in a car that is not even worth half of that amount is plain stupid imo. it's like investing 10,000 in a business that only has 5000 in assets that will not make a single dollar in profits. you're 15 grand in the hole and when you want to sell it, you will be lucky to get 5000 back.

that being said, it's your money, so spend it as you wish. good luck.
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Originally Posted by Todd00
A B16 revs to 8100rpms stock. There are thousands upon thousands doing it all over the world right now without any problems. I think your friends car had other issues. Your 'control' group is way to small to make outlandish claims such that you are making.

And a EVO, STi, Mazdaspeed, etc. with a few boltons and ECU work will all smoke your K20 n/a hatch.
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Spoil sport!! :-p
Ahhahaha. The truth hurts! Todd00 and I see eye to eye on a lot of things on this board lol
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Originally Posted by VTECROAR96typeR
i guess money wouldnt be the problem, i wanted something fast this summer coming up but if i can get more power from a k20 with boltons i think its better project.. and it comes with 6 gears even better..
i have a K20A type R complete swap i will sell for a really good price...LMK if ur interested
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