n00b question...Difference between i-VTEC and VTEC?
Sorry for the n00b question, but my friend is lookin into the RSX S and we are just trying to find out as much about it as possible. Also, how has the S responded to aftermarket modifications like intake, exhaust, etc. Finally, about how long is the breakin period for it when bought brand new? TIA
i-vtec is on a constant retarding/advancing cam/ignition timing according to engine load. There is no actual 'engagement' in i-vtec, i guess you can say vtec is always on
and on the Type S motor it does this on both the intake and exhaust cam where as the 02 Civic Si and the base model RSX is only on the intake side.
Where as older VTEC such as h22a and ITR motor has a specific low cam profile for good idle and torque and mid performance, and then actually engages to a more higher profile cam lobe running at high rpm's generating more horsepower with more lift and more duration for more power
HTH
and on the Type S motor it does this on both the intake and exhaust cam where as the 02 Civic Si and the base model RSX is only on the intake side.
Where as older VTEC such as h22a and ITR motor has a specific low cam profile for good idle and torque and mid performance, and then actually engages to a more higher profile cam lobe running at high rpm's generating more horsepower with more lift and more duration for more power

HTH
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Just to clarify, the VTC mechanism (the "i" in i-VTEC) is only operational on the intake camshaft on all i-VTEC motors.
VTC is marketed as a performance enhancement, and in truth it could be used that way, but the ECU tuning on the K-series motors uses VTC to recirculate exhaust gasses like an EGR valve. It's really more for emissions reduction than anything else. One drawback of continuously variable camshaft timing is that it makes it much more difficult to design aftermarket camshafts that will work accepably under the many conditions created by the engine's constantly changing needs. Any camshaft is a compromise, but VTC throws in so many tuning variables it may prove to be too damn difficult for aftermarket cam designers to come up with their own set of compromises. Toda Racing already has camshafts for the K20A, but they recommend their cam sproket for the intake cam, which completely disables VTC.
VTC is marketed as a performance enhancement, and in truth it could be used that way, but the ECU tuning on the K-series motors uses VTC to recirculate exhaust gasses like an EGR valve. It's really more for emissions reduction than anything else. One drawback of continuously variable camshaft timing is that it makes it much more difficult to design aftermarket camshafts that will work accepably under the many conditions created by the engine's constantly changing needs. Any camshaft is a compromise, but VTC throws in so many tuning variables it may prove to be too damn difficult for aftermarket cam designers to come up with their own set of compromises. Toda Racing already has camshafts for the K20A, but they recommend their cam sproket for the intake cam, which completely disables VTC.
iVTEC is true three stage while the VTEC is only two stage. iVTEC on the D15B starts by only opening 1 instake and exhaust valve, followed by 16 valve operation and then the high lobe is operated.
iVTEC is true three stage while the VTEC is only two stage. iVTEC on the D15B starts by only opening 1 instake and exhaust valve, followed by 16 valve operation and then the high lobe is operated.
***** I must be stupid.
iVTEC and VTEC-E use the same VTEC activation system so you get better MPG and performance. Look at the location under my name.
iVTEC is true three stage while the VTEC is only two stage. iVTEC on the D15B starts by only opening 1 instake and exhaust valve, followed by 16 valve operation and then the high lobe is operated.
Since when does Honda make a D15B with i-VTEC? I thought those were the old VX motors with VTEC-E?
***** I must be stupid.
Since when does Honda make a D15B with i-VTEC? I thought those were the old VX motors with VTEC-E?
***** I must be stupid.
i-vtec is on constant variable timing according to engine load.
vtec-e has 1 lil camlobe&valve and 1 big cam lobe&valve (vtec) where the big valve barely opens and runs mainly on the lil cam lobe&lil valve and at high rpms opens up the bigger valve.
vtec-e is very good for turbo applications.
3 stage vtec (D15B) -- has low cam lobe, mid cam lobe, and high cam lobe.
What i wonder is why didn't Honda develop 3 stage VTEC for performance also into the ITR motor, and extract even more torque, and even more aggressive power band of cam lobes with lift/duration.
HTH
iVTEC and VTEC-E use the same VTEC activation system so you get better MPG and performance. Look at the location under my name.
Since the Type-S responds well with mods........ injen sri/ and aem cai both dyno'ed in at 8hp/5tq. Also seen people with I/E dyno in at 13-14hp......
You guys got it all mixed up (except MK Ultra).
i-VTEC = VTEC + VTC on intake cam (like BMW VANOS or Toyota VVTi). That's it.
i-VTEC = VTEC + VTC on intake cam (like BMW VANOS or Toyota VVTi). That's it.
i-VTEC Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control (VTEC) and camshaft Variable Timing Control (VTC), DOHC, four-valves-per-cylinder, chain-driven camshafts
You guys got it all mixed up (except MK Ultra).
i-VTEC = VTEC + VTC on intake cam (like BMW VANOS or Toyota VVTi). That's it.
i-VTEC = VTEC + VTC on intake cam (like BMW VANOS or Toyota VVTi). That's it.
It still has the hi-cam operation, just that the intake cam has the ability to "tune" itself throughout the rpm range.



