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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 06:24 PM
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Here is my car http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3196245 2000 EK currently with a full B16b swap. I'm going to buy a K20a swap tomorrow for $4,500 off craigslist. I'm looking for a car that would be great weekend car and for the track. I would like to run in the 13's at the track. I would like to get a turbo. What turbo would you buy? What internals would you do also before you install the engine? I would like to get some of your ideas and then start researching them out and find what would work best for what I'm looking for. I made a budget but that can go higher if it's worth the performance.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 06:28 PM
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hahaha...sorry man, I just thought it was funny, 30 minutes ago it was B16b with 10k. lol money flies out the window.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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hahaha...sorry man, I just thought it was funny, 30 minutes ago it was B16b with 10k. lol money flies out the window.
I got a good job. The $2k is going to be the difference from the motors.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 06:35 PM
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chyea. i get it.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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lol ibtl
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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Personally, I would keep the b16 and forget the k20. If you're gonna be using aftermarket internals then why spend the extra money(or do the extra work for that matter) on a new motor when u can use that money to get the new parts? especially when ur going to be ending up with the same results anyway. Also, parts for the b series motors are going to be cheaper than a k so you'll plenty of money left over(for your power goals) and plenty of room for improvement incase u ever decide to break out of the 13's lol.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JonLeeEK
Here is my car http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3196245 2000 EK currently with a full B16b swap. I'm going to buy a K20a swap tomorrow for $4,500 off craigslist. I'm looking for a car that would be great weekend car and for the track. I would like to run in the 13's at the track. I would like to get a turbo. What turbo would you buy? What internals would you do also before you install the engine? I would like to get some of your ideas and then start researching them out and find what would work best for what I'm looking for. I made a budget but that can go higher if it's worth the performance.
From what you have said there's no way a person could reeeally tell you what you want. With a k20 and if i understand correctly $8k you will definately be running better than 13's w/ boost, Have you ever been on a track before? Your car is definately clean and you have a great swap why not build for na w/ all that money and save some serious cash. To swap the k20 in your going to have to definately burn some of your money, i'm thinkin your most likely not swapping it in yourself haha. GL man
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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and if your selling a full b16b swap for only $3k like you stated on this odd thread https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...866&highlight= definately let me know
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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hahaha. Absurdity. I'm subscribing.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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k20. good choice. btw i like the car.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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build it for the road course, you'll have more fun that way
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 10:21 PM
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I say if you want a 13 second car and have some money left, buy header and exhaust since you have an intake. bam, 13 second b16b EK. you've still got 7250 at least dollars to spend on say, a 54 inch tv, extra set of rims, new tires, future replacement parts?

lol. if you DONT wanna do that and you're set on k20

you're left with 3500 dollars if you put the swap in yourself, assuming it comes with all parts (doubt it does) so lets say 2800 dollars.

2800 dollars is a decent turbo kit. Assuming you put it together yourself.

boosted k20 will be more like mid 11's id imagine, or late 11's. (assuming you only boost to around 350 whp)
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 11:44 PM
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Boost your b16b or even get a gsr block for cheap and slap your b16b head on it and get a turbo kit. K20s are good but i don't think your going to get that far with 8k if you want a full blown swap with aftermarket market internals and stuff. With all that money you could sleeve your b16b or get a b18c block sleeved and have massive boost. 8k can go long ways. You would have much better results just going that route and have money left over for some other parts.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 11:46 PM
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you should be able to run 13s with bolt ons and slicks with that b16b. If not get gsr/itr crank, eagle rods and low compression pistons. Slap a decent size turbo on there. and you can run 13s or 10s for about the same amount of money as that k20 swap going to cost you to put in. K20 is over rated. I think 4th gear torque steer with boosted b series is scary enough.
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 12:02 AM
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just build the sickest poor mans R with the 4500 will eat that k20a all day and boosted
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 12:06 AM
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blah, just get 9:1 slugs and some eagles, oversized turbo, new valve springs, retainers, aggressive cams, rev that bitch to the moon. Then take the left over cash and put it in the bank.
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Kelb
I say if you want a 13 second car and have some money left, buy header and exhaust since you have an intake. bam, 13 second b16b EK. you've still got 7250 at least dollars to spend on say, a 54 inch tv, extra set of rims, new tires, future replacement parts?

boosted k20 will be more like mid 11's id imagine, or late 11's. (assuming you only boost to around 350 whp)


ditto
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 06:41 AM
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build the b16..you will save $$$$...and headaches of finding all them dam rediculous parts that you will need for the k20 swap..k20's move but im sure with 1k-3k on that b16 you would tear up someone with a k20 ..k20 supercharged is a beast 2 ..but hey ,,save money,enjoy the b16 done up and have plenty of warm cofee with all that extra $$$..j/k
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 06:43 AM
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Don't waste your money. Drive the car as it sits now and be happy. In 3 - 5 years you will wish you had that 8,000 to put down on a new car.
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Kelb
I say if you want a 13 second car and have some money left, buy header and exhaust since you have an intake. bam, 13 second b16b EK. you've still got 7250 at least dollars to spend on say, a 54 inch tv, extra set of rims, new tires, future replacement parts?
More like a mid 14sec car, but you're on the right track. Keep the b16b...boost it, and save the heartache and ALOT of money. All motor k-series with I/H/E and k-pro will get you into the 12's...but then again so will a boosted b series...so I guess its a horse apiece. One option (k swap) will end up costing a lot more $$ and time AND if you're buying it off craigslist you never really know what your getting unless the motor is still in the car.
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 10:23 AM
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K20a plus $8,000.
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by white ej2
Personally, I would keep the b16 and forget the k20. If you're gonna be using aftermarket internals then why spend the extra money(or do the extra work for that matter) on a new motor when u can use that money to get the new parts? especially when ur going to be ending up with the same results anyway. Also, parts for the b series motors are going to be cheaper than a k so you'll plenty of money left over(for your power goals) and plenty of room for improvement incase u ever decide to break out of the 13's lol.
My problem is I hate the B16 tranny on the freeway. I can't hear **** and the engine is at 4300 rpm at 80 mph. The k20a type r is 6 speed and I hope that I would get those RPM's down so I can hear myself think. Here is the link for the Type R http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/pts/938859541.html

What do you think?
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 05:33 PM
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get a B20 block and sleeve it throw that b16 head on it and a turbo and ull be very happy
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dapek
From what you have said there's no way a person could reeeally tell you what you want. With a k20 and if i understand correctly $8k you will definately be running better than 13's w/ boost, Have you ever been on a track before? Your car is definately clean and you have a great swap why not build for na w/ all that money and save some serious cash. To swap the k20 in your going to have to definately burn some of your money, i'm thinkin your most likely not swapping it in yourself haha. GL man
Your exactly right. I don't know what I want that's why I'm asking the forum for advice, help, and opinions. Isn't what this forum is for? Or should I not ask these questions? I'm not going to do the swap myself I'm going to pay someone that has all the tools, time (which I don't have) and experience. I'm trying to understand how I'm wasting money. On Hmotorsonline a b16b is going for 30006 - B16B (EK TypeR) Complete Change Over
185Hp 117 Trq 10.8 Compression(JDM) 96-00 Year
$ 3599.00 Plus shipping and handling.

Probably when I get the engine after shipping it's going to be $3,800. For a couple hundred dollars more I can buy a K20a Type r motor for about $4,200. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/pts/938859541.html

I buy the swap right now. Sell my b16b for $3,000 to $3,500. Would you upgrade for $700 more for a k20a type r? Skunk2 stage 2 cams are about that amount. What would produce more power? cams or better motor with more horse power? Then boost the engine. Let me know where I'm wrong.
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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Are you planning on doing the swap yourself?

You might want to check how much a local shop will charge you to do a swap with this engine. I'm sure it won't be cheap and will certainly cut into your extra 8 grand. I would do the swap first, then see how much cash you have left, then decide what you want to spend it on.
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